Giskard and False Accusations

[Arthmoor]

Looks like the next phase in the isolation cycle has begun - someone named Librapoet has just been kicked from the guild and all his mods purged from the site supposedly for violating resource licensing. Affected in this purging: Busy Roads Daedric War RIBO VampirismEmpoweredLite Librapoet's Blades Expanded The last 4 I have no idea about, but this "Busy Roads" mod is just a collection of NPCs, with no dependency on CURP or anything like that. So Giskard's reasoning appears to be entirely flawed. The cynic in me says he shitcanned this guy because he was liberal in his permission policies. Not because he couldn't prove he had permission to use resources. He also repeats his ranting about the BC team "violating his rights repeatedly" and has now added the OC "team" to his list of evil people. Neither the BC team nor the OC "team" has ever violated Giskard's rights since none of us use copies of his resources for any purpose. Easily proven by simply downloading the archives and looking for yourself. If he means violations of CURP, that would be laughable in the extreme since CURP is nothing more than a massive compilation of other modders' resources.

[Orisha]

From what I hear, he doesn't need reasoning anymore. "Lets see, it says here I gave you permission. That can't be right. Let me use white out for you, get this outdated writing off this document. There, now its updated. Oh and look, your mods are now in violation of my mods. Bye bye." Feel sorry for the delusional people that still follow him. They stay loyal to the man they sacrificed the ability to even post their mods on popular sites and Giskard spits in their faces...

[Conner]

I think we've reasonably established already that Giskard's a whack job, Saadus. ;) I can't say that any of those five titles would've grabbed my attention from their names alone, but it's still pretty sad that he's purging even his own people. On the other hand, perhaps it'll expedite the matter of purging him from the community and getting some of those who would be his followers to wake up and become valuable to the community as a whole. :shrug: At least they're only delusional enough to be following him, they still have the glimmer of hope of waking up to reality once he purges them from his circle at which point their only recourses will be to resume the community at large and post their mods elsewhere or give up altogether. If any of them had any mods that were even decent, that could prove a good thing for everyone should they find they have to post them some place accessible. :cool:

[AnImpatientFan]

I reckon Giskard dropped Librapoet (Who was a Good Modder BTW) to lower the fees for his DL page. It seems to be timed just after the whole "I cant afford my DL Page" crap.

[Vorians]

Conner said:

Are you sure it's about jealousy? It sounds like he's seriously power tripping through all this to me.

Same difference as far as I'm concerned. He wasn't the one in control any more, he was on the side-lines seeing his mods succeeding without him. So he wrested control away from DC so that they couldn't be accepted where his actions had caused him to be rejected. Samson said:

someone named Librapoet has just been kicked from the guild and all his mods purged from the site supposedly for violating resource licensing.

The cynic in me says he shitcanned this guy because he was liberal in his permission policies. Not because he couldn't prove he had permission to use resources.

And that less than 12 hours after I said "(though in one of his more recent rants he has stated that TEG aren't putting any effort in and it's all him on his own - do I hear a backstabber approaching?)." Seems I predicted that one. Drop a friend, blame the friend. Samson also said:

If he means violations of CURP, that would be laughable in the extreme since CURP is nothing more than a massive compilation of other modders' resources.

Actually (unless this changed over the last 24 hours) Giskard allows any modder completely free usage of the resources from his mods, whether they be resources in CURP from other modders, or resources unique to his mods. The only parts of his mods which other modders are forbidden from editing and releasing are the ESMs and ESPs (which belong to Bethesda, as already discussed here).

[Vorians]

Oh and I see he's handing out more advice in his "Your Generation" blog post.

When you do not know how to do something, spend a minute learning how.

If only he could learn to follow his own advice, he'd take the time to learn how to use TES4Edit instead of just posting repeated negative comments about TES4Edit and those who use it, as if he knew what he was talking about.

[Conner]

I reckon Giskard dropped Librapoet (Who was a Good Modder BTW) to lower the fees for his DL page. It seems to be timed just after the whole "I cant afford my DL Page" crap.

Welcome to the fold, AnImpatientFan, it's always nice to see new people here, especially when they even create actual accounts. :biggrin: Hopefully, if he's a good modder, he'll rejoin the community now that he's no longer accepted among the Giskardians. I can see the merit to your theory, but I fail to envision how his download page can be costing him more or less by adding or purging someone's mods unless they were generating more traffic than his own mods.

He wasn't the one in control any more, he was on the side-lines seeing his mods succeeding without him.

Right, power tripping control freak. Not that I can truly fault someone for being a control freak ...but, still, in his case he's taking it to an extreme that's hurting others and that's a point where I draw a line, personally. (Btw, to put the person's name and said into the quote block you do quote=person's_name between the brackets for the opening quote tag.)

Seems I predicted that one. Drop a friend, blame the friend.

Yup, you called that one. Too bad for this Librapoet person though.

Actually (unless this changed over the last 24 hours) Giskard allows any modder completely free usage of the resources from his mods, whether they be resources in CURP from other modders, or resources unique to his mods. The only parts of his mods which other modders are forbidden from editing and releasing are the ESMs and ESPs (which belong to Bethesda, as already discussed here).

Then either something's changed in the last day or you've confirmed what Samson was saying about this being a totally arbitrary thing rather than some sort of legitimate grip about Librapoet misusing resources.

follow his own advice

It seems that this can be one of the hardest things for people to learn to do in general. Maybe it's not so surprising that this applies to him as well.

[Vorians]

it's always nice to see new people here, especially when they even create actual accounts

Alright, alright. There, you happy? :biggrin: I give up trying to upload an icon though, clearly Samson has included some sneaky coding to always say "Errors" whenever I do so, regardless of icon size or file format. Damn you Samson!

[Conner]

Indeed, Vorians, I'm ecstatic! :biggrin: You got the quote right with in-line accreditation and you became a full fledged member who can now enjoy all the privileges of such rank. What more could I have asked for? Oh, I think I remember running into that problem.. I think it's got to be a jpg or a png with 40x40 dimensions and smaller than 2k or some such. I'm certain Samson would know exactly though. Perhaps Samson should add a note there to indicate those requirements.

[Arthmoor]

When filing bug reports, one should endeavor to be as detailed as possible. Getting "errors" doesn't do me much good when I try the icon upload and it works. There is a 40x40 size restriction, which is mentioned, but the image does not need to start that way nor is there a restriction on how large the actual file can be. It's going to get forced into a really small one anyway.

[Hana]

I would agree Samson snuck in some sneaky code. He does that. And hey, wait till you get the special fatal errors. While I'm here, can someone help this poor sod over at Beth. It's just getting painful to read. I mean, am I crazy or do BC and OCC not play well together (read: at all)? His BC load may be messed as well. Otherwise, I have nothing important to add to this thread.

[Orisha]

My load order looks even worse lol.

[AnImpatientFan]

Sigh, He has recapped what he has been saying for the past year once AGAIN. He obviously is trying hard to get his point through. Jk.

[AnImpatientFan]

Sign In problems fixed, Now logged in.

[Vorians]

Well I wasn't reporting a bug, just grumbling loudly I felt that getting "Errors" didn't do me much good either I started with an animated GIF 64x64 which displayed but gave "Errors" message Then I saved the first frame as a JPG 64x64 which displayed but gave "Errors" message Then I resaved as a JPG 40x40 which might have displayed (can't remember) but gave "Errors" message Then I resaved as a BMP 40x40 which did NOT display and gave "Errors" message Then I resaved as PNG which might have displayed but gave "Errors" message Then I got bored and decided that the suit and tie icon wasn't so bad. Samson (all these these different names; Scalonhulk, Arthmoor, Samson, all JUST to trick Giskard) has posted on that Beth thread Hanaisse mentioned, hopefully the poster will get a working game again now. EDIT I don't know who this Locke person is that some of you have mentioned, but it really does seem that Giskard follows the same pattern, except more like once a season instead of just once a year. Last night he posted another rant (rather a flat one this time) repeating his usual stuff. I always feel when reading his rants against others that he's describing himself really well:

My opinions on mod cleaning and patching are well known, as are my opinions on the need for testing, but I would not deny people the right to edit my mods on those grounds. My thoughts on that are if your dumb enough to do that to a quest mod, people are soon going to learn how bad at modding you are without any help from me and avoid you.

Look who the majority of the TES modding community now avoid...

[Sigurð Stormhand]

It's a truism that we see our own virtues and flaws in those around us - so Giskard seeing deceitful backstabbers everywhere fuels his own self-deceit and backstabbing, which he believes he does to protect himself. If he just realised he was wrong about other people he would get on better with them; but instead he is trapped in a psychological hell of his own making which is quite litterally leading him on a decending spiral into paranoid madness.

[Conner]

If it wasn't so sad, this Giskard character would be pretty funny. I think Sigurd sounds like he's got him fairly well pegged, unless, as Fury suggested about Locke, he's role playing it and none of this is real to him.. in which case, much like Locke, it's a little overdone... Oh, and Vorians, you've got more to be grateful for by not knowing who he is... ;) But if you really want to know more, Samson's got some links floating around with more details, but the gist is that he took an existing codebase and modified it enough that he felt he no longer needed to call it a derivative or follow the original licensing which got the community riled; then he started claiming every other codebase needed his license because they all contain a snippet that he and his dead partner wrote, of course not every other codebase does so even more uproar; then he started making even stranger claims - he created youtube, he contributed to every known company in the world, etc.. guess what came of that? :lol: ..anyway, every year he resurfaced for a month or so to rant and rave and argue with everyone until he gets banned at half the community sites then he vanishes for another 10-11 months, long enough for some of those bans to be forgotten/lifted and using new aliases at the sites where the bans are already permanent. Half the community is convinced it's that the asylum gives him time off for good behavior each year or that his prescriptions all have to be annually renewed or something. ;)

[Dallen68]

Persanally, I think this shit started as an "honest disagreement". That being said, I think part of it is Giskard's copy of bash does not function (mine doesn't) [I was supposed to open bash for this one mod I want to try, then click on this tab, and click some button or the other, but all that happens is a DOS window opens]. Later, it wasn't "that" Elminster cleaned and fixed the mod, it was that the title of Elminster's edited mod included the "words" "cleand and fixed". That's like totally embarrassing.

[Conner]

I had the impression it all started because Giskard thought that tools like TES4Edit & Bash are the devil incarnate...

[Arthmoor]

It did, but the catalyst for his 30+ month long rant was when Elminster released the proof that his mods were filthy messes of dirty edits.

[Sigurð Stormhand]

His mods are a bit shit anyway, the way the new Star Wars films are a bit shit. They're perfect examples of very good ideas and frameworks with terrible implementation, details, and complete refusal to take editorial criticism. I mean, honestly, he put in a load of Valenwood elves with long green hair, and Necromancers have to be in everything, to the extent that he gave them an Imperial-sanctioned Guild in his latest run of OMG.

[Sigurð Stormhand]

Oops, last posted by me again. :redface:

[Conner]

Oh, I see. I suppose that makes what Dallen said make more sense then, Samson. Ouch, Sigurd, no one had been saying his mods were bad before this, let alone that bad. Well, I'll admit that green hair sounds strange for elves to me, but these are his mods so that's his call, I suppose.. Necromancers, well, maybe he just really likes them that much? Oh, and Sigurd, you stop having to worry about that when you have an actual account here and just stay logged in.

[Dallen68]

Sigurd-His users seem to like that sort of thing. The Necromancer thing in OMG is supposed to help 'tie it in' to a couple of his other mods. Overall, the mods themselves aren't bad-he just takes things a bit to personally. Apparently, his dislike of tes4edit is the person that made it. Then, he doesn't use OBSE, so who knows?

[Arthmoor]

For someone who likes to crow about lore, I sure don't remember anything about Elves with green hair being in there. Nor do I remember Traven saying "oh, necromancers are cool" so I don't see how he could fit that in without the entire Mages Guild becoming a farce and wrecking the entire quest line for that. If he made them as a separate joinable faction that's another thing, but why not just make a necro faction mod instead of attaching it to a mage guild mod? Using or not using OBSE isn't something I'd call him out on, since I don't use it unless I need to, outside of Cyrodiil Travel Services I don't.