nsm0220 Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 (edited) 40 minutes ago, smr1957 said: Okay, I see it - downloaded it. First, run LOOT or the mod sorter built into your mod manager. That will get the mods more organized. Though some things in the order may be changed, sorting and applying now will eliminate some of the more egregious errors (of which there are a lot, right now). Once things are less jumbled, then we can fine tune the load order. Once you do that, repost the load order - I know this is a little slow, but without sitting at your PC, that's the best we can do (if only they would invent that Star Trek transporter already!). updated list.txt Edited March 18 by nsm0220 lmstearn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmstearn Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Who was it that said warp speed again? Spoiler Those of us who do not use MO2 always encourage MO2 users to reach out to their forums, we do have some experienced MO2 users on board though. There shouldn't be any issue running LOOT through MO2, however, would this be any good for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsm0220 Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, lmstearn said: Who was it that said warp speed again? Reveal hidden contents Those of us who do not use MO2 always encourage MO2 users to reach out to their forums, we do have some experienced MO2 users on board though. There shouldn't be any issue running LOOT through MO2, however, would this be any good for you? i just wanted to ask anyway the new file should be the new loot order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr1957 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Ok, I downloaded the updated file - I am hitting the sack, so will check on it tomorrow (hopefully). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsm0220 Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 (edited) 8 minutes ago, smr1957 said: Ok, I downloaded the updated file - I am hitting the sack, so will check on it tomorrow (hopefully). thanks for viewing it have a good night Edited March 18 by nsm0220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hana Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I've been following along here but I have to say I'm still confused (no offense to Imstern and smr and their help). The claim is, when you have JK's immensely popular mod Darkend in your load order, your game will not start, correct? Yet your last posted load order does not even indicate you have the mod installed. So that's really not helping anything. Install the mod (check the link, make sure you have the SE version), and run Loot again. Then read what Loot has to tell you. According to other people on the mod page the mod needs cleaning in xEdit, so do that and check your game again. The mod has no dependancies and is contained in it's own world space so should have little to no impact on an existing game or a new game. You also claim your game worked with it before so what did you do with your game before this started occuring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsm0220 Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 (edited) updated list 2.txt 11 hours ago, Hana said: I've been following along here but I have to say I'm still confused (no offense to Imstern and smr and their help). The claim is, when you have JK's immensely popular mod Darkend in your load order, your game will not start, correct? Yet your last posted load order does not even indicate you have the mod installed. So that's really not helping anything. Install the mod (check the link, make sure you have the SE version), and run Loot again. Then read what Loot has to tell you. According to other people on the mod page the mod needs cleaning in xEdit, so do that and check your game again. The mod has no dependancies and is contained in it's own world space so should have little to no impact on an existing game or a new game. You also claim your game worked with it before so what did you do with your game before this started occuring? well i uninstall it for now and i was at 214 before it happen again so far 4 mods cause the game not to start i reinstall darkend for the test the log is on the upper left corner Edited March 19 by nsm0220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr1957 Posted Sunday at 12:51 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:51 PM (edited) I checked through it, and as it stands, it appears to be okay, at least as to the mods that I am familar with. The one thing that I notice is that you have Complete Alchemy and Cooking Overhaul (CACO) towards the bottom of your load order - in my build it is near the top, however, that may not be significant, as I do a lot of editing to my files, and, as CACO is one of my core mods, I always load it amongst the first batch of mods. Of course, with a load order with as many plugins as you have, it does make things more difficult to troubleshoot, hence why I merge many of my mods and do not use a lot of .esl files where it is avoidable - it just makes things a whole loot easier to look through when there are not so many plugins to sort through. But, unless you are experienced, it is probably best not to merge (and using an automated merge program other than the xEdit script is not recommended - too much goes wrong when using them). Listen to what Hana and lmstearn have to say as well - between the three of us, you are in very good hands (talking about a ton of experience amongst us - if there is something that can possibly go wrong with a build, we've probably seen it). Edited Sunday at 12:51 PM by smr1957 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsm0220 Posted Sunday at 08:34 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 08:34 PM (edited) should i merge the esl files to help as for the darkend mod should i turn it off until this gets fixed Edited Sunday at 08:37 PM by nsm0220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr1957 Posted Monday at 12:03 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:03 AM ESL files cannot be merged in xEdit - unless they have been reconverted to regular ESPs - and that is not recommended. Indeed, as I mentioned, merging itself is not recommended unless a person has the necessary knowledge and experience in the use of xEdit and in the creating of builds and the associated work necessary to make them totally stable (and merging using anything other than the xEdit script - using an automated merge program or zEdit should NOT be done at all - there will be errors in all but the most basic and small merges - e.g. just a handful of mods at most - and anyone who tells you differently is flat out wrong - I don't care who they are). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsm0220 Posted Monday at 12:05 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 12:05 AM (edited) On 3/19/2023 at 5:03 PM, smr1957 said: ESL files cannot be merged in xEdit - unless they have been reconverted to regular ESPs - and that is not recommended. Indeed, as I mentioned, merging itself is not recommended unless a person has the necessary knowledge and experience in the use of xEdit and in the creating of builds and the associated work necessary to make them totally stable (and merging using anything other than the xEdit script - using an automated merge program or zEdit should NOT be done at all - there will be errors in all but the most basic and small merges - e.g. just a handful of mods at most - and anyone who tells you differently is flat out wrong - I don't care who they are). i see i was trying to help so let me know what mods i should put in order so far mods icow blackthorn cray and stone deposits the hanging gardens darkend winterhold restored rigmor and cofwi the brotherhood of old open citys skyrim are cause the game not to start beyond the main menu mods immersive citizens cause the game to hang up in the loading screen so now i gone though my mod list on want works and what doesn't loot log updated 3.txt Edited Thursday at 12:28 AM by nsm0220 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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