The Big Fallout 4 Thread

[InsanePlumber]

Interesting comparison of system resource usage by F4 on different hardware platforms. (Russian language)

Interesting comparison of system resource usage by F4 on different hardware platforms. (Google Translate English)

 

Some comparisons:

 

 

 

[Nico coiN]

First UI mod released : http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/619/?

[InsanePlumber]

First UI mod released : http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/619/?

English Version http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1235/?

[pStyl3]

Just thought I'd drop that here:

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Monsignor_Plaza

 

Apparently there is a critical crash bug. Make sure to do a proper save before entering that area.

[Arthmoor]

Odd. I just did a quest there and had no trouble with CTDs at all. In fact, the game has yet to crash on me once. Are there any details beyond a vague wiki report?

[pStyl3]

https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/3t89by/the_monsignor_plaza_debacle_instactd/

 

I just visited and cleared that place aswell (exterior aswell as interior) and no CTD on my side too. Seems like this only happens for a few people.

 

In any case, Fallout 4 runs rocksolid for me aswell, no problems for me at all (aside from a few graphical glitches).

[pStyl3]

I started to collect all the power armors in FO4. I'm not entirely done with setting up the location, but I'm pretty happy with it already.

http://abload.de/img/fo4pa22ago.jpg

 

T-51 helmet, T-60 Right Arm and T-60 Right Leg are still missing though.

[Thomas Kaira]

Gotta get this out there, dialog comparison:

 

A baby is drowning in a pool of radioactive water and the father needs you to help. What do you do?

 

Fallout 3:

 

-I'll save the baby.

-No way I'm risking my life like that!

-[speech 36%]I'll save him if you pay me.

-[Endurance]Shouldn't be too bad with some Rad-X.

 

Fallout New Vegas:

 

-I'll save the baby.

-No way I'm risking my life like that!

-[speech 15/45] Well, uhh, help doesn't come cheap, right?

-[survival 40] The radiation isn't that bad, just take some Rad-X. And here's some Radaway for your son.

-[Explosives 35] I've got a pretty good arm, I could lasso him back to shore if you've got some rope.

 

Fallout 4:

 

-Yes

-No

-Sarcastic

-What baby?

 

I'll leave it up to you if you feel it was worth it to have a voiced protagonist.

[VaultDuke]

Seen that joke on the inXile forums already though i found the graphical one there even better:

https://forums.inxile-entertainment.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=13054&start=280#p164403

[Arthmoor]

A voiced protagonist is not the reason their dialogue snippets suck. Laziness is. Someone already has a mod out that fixes that, but it's probably nowhere near complete. From what I could tell, a pretty clever method too. UI + String File trickery. No esp. The screenshots it shows on Nexus are promising.

 

Yes, I happen to like a voiced protagonist. For Fallout, it works, because you pretty much have "male human" and "female human". It would have broken down quickly if they let you be a ghoul or a super mutant as well. It also likely wouldn't work for an Elder Scrolls game unless they went balls out and did voice for all 10 races.

[VaultDuke]

This guy really hates the interface, and he doesn't stop his critique at the dialog wheel, but goes all the way down the rabbit hole into little details like display inconsistencies between different pip boy tabs:

http://kotaku.com/fallout-4s-user-interface-is-truly-terrible-1743826375

i hope bethesda is taking notes

[zilav]

I must admit I cried instead of laughing

 

[InsanePlumber]

In FO4 hawe

6005 *.BGSM Data\Materials

282 *.BGEM Data\Materials

 

How to edit them?

 

Gibbed's Fallout 4 Tools

 

 

    Various tools for Fallout 4 that I have developed.

    Note: these are command-line utilities!
    Most of them will work with just drag&drop in File Explorer.

    Gibbed.Fallout4.ConvertMaterial.exe - Converts *.bgsm files to a JSON format.
    Gibbed.Fallout4.ConvertEffectMaterial.exe - Converts *.bgem files to a JSON format.
    Gibbed.Fallout4.Unpack.exe - Invokes UnpackGeneral or UnpackTexture, depending on archive type.
    Gibbed.Fallout4.UnpackGeneral.exe - Unpacks general archives (*.b2a).
    Gibbed.Fallout4.UnpackTexture.exe - Unpacks texture archives (*.b2a).

    Source code is available via my SVN repository:
    http://svn.gib.me/public/fallout4/trunk

    Automated builds are available as well (if the file here on Nexus is out of date):
    http://svn.gib.me/builds/fallout4

 

After converting to JSON and editing change file extension from *.JSON to *.BGSM.

JSON Validator

Yeah, I haven't implemented converting back to the binary format simply because FO4 supports the JSON format. I'll probably implement it eventually, but at this point it really isn't necessary.

Also recommend to use version r18_b18 from Automated builds

[InsanePlumber]

Material Editor with GUI by ousnius on GitHub

[pStyl3]

So I was wondering how many of those "Light Boxes" you can stack on top of each other while building your settlement. Turns out the number is 32, which means that the biggest possible square build out of those has 32^2 = 1024 Light Boxes.

http://abload.de/img/3229q44.jpg

 

Unfortunately the limit for building things prevents one from lighting all of them.

Edit

[alt3rn1ty]

Beta 1.2.37 just downloaded on my machine

 

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1559864-welcome-to-the-steam-beta-update-forum/

[Zaldir]

More "General memory and stability improvements".

 

Nice of them to fix the terminals though. That was perhaps the biggest issue in the game (for me), which makes the game after this update a pretty damn smooth experience.

[alt3rn1ty]

More "General memory and stability improvements".

 

Yeah, that general statement is the same as Skyrim official beta patches, thats where the embarrasing stuff is erm .. logged as fixed

 

Coders blog "Fell asleep on the keyboard again, 1500 pages of zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's entered with my nose, need to clean up Corvega later"

[Arthmoor]

Going to have to start keeping track of the esm changes now cause this update had nothing in it I'd expect that to have changed for, and yet it did.

[alt3rn1ty]

If you are using Ultra setting for Textures, expect it to use up to 2.6 gb of VRAM

 

Here's an hours worth of monitoring :

[pStyl3]

I have reason to believe that there is an issue of some sort with the Power Counters. I've been playing around with them, basically testing "I want to hit one button (or something similiar) which has the result that the Power Counter reaches as fast as possible it's max. setting" .. which is "9". I ended up doing this: one, two three, here is a more basic overview.

All "Delayed On Switches" are set to delay power for 1/4 s, all "Delayed Off Switches" are set to delay cutting of power for 1/8 s (Delayed Off Switches are there to ensure that only short impulses reach the Power Counter). This works beautifully if all Delayed Off Switches are connected to Lightboxes instead of that Power Counter (as an example), so the timings are alright.

 

The problem now is, that the Power Counter doesn't count consistenly. Sometimes it counts 7 power "inputs", sometimes 8, sometimes 9 (as it should with my setup). It seems to me, that if the Power Counter is at count "9" and then goes back to "0" again, that this exact step is incredibly slow and therefore slows the whole process. If the time settings for the delay switches would be longer, this issue would probably start to masquarade itself, but well .. for these short settings the Power Counter is not really reliable as it is.

[VaultDuke]

Ouch, this puts the finger where it hurts:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2015/12/09/fallout-4-makes-no-sense/

[Arthmoor]

I think perhaps that guy hasn't realized that Fallout is based on a 1950s interpretation of what the aftermath of a nuclear war would be like. He's going on about all the science-y stuff about how buildings decay and stuff but back in the 1950s, nobody actually knew what it would be like.

 

IMO, anyone expecting a Fallout game to be realistic has another thing coming. Not even the originals made sense in the way he's trying to say they should have.

 

Drawing comparisons with Chernobyl doesn't really work either because Chernobyl wasn't a global event that burned everything to a crisp.

[VaultDuke]

but i think he has a point about the no cleaning and looting part. I think that has to be my only real complaint about the Bethesda Fallout games. Though the article paints it a bit negative, by making it look like every settlement suffered from this.

[Arthmoor]

My problem is that he's laying blame only on Bethesda when this "problem" has existed since Fallout 1. The entire series has always had this supposed problem with junk and dead stuff laying around inside settled areas. I just don't see it as an issue other than perhaps the valid complaint about leaving pre-war skeletons lying around in a place you've supposedly reclaimed from the wasteland.

 

Keep in mind, there are people in the real world right now living in conditions that are almost this bad and we haven't had a global nuclear war yet.