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Since @FelesNoctis has done such a good job on the documentation, which may still need some updating, there is no reason to have two sites for documentation. However, I need a resource to add things I find important about Wrye Bash. That could be functions not mentioned in the docs or explanations because what is in the documentation is that that clear. I am still working on what I want and in the end if there is too much modding information and not enough about Wrye Bash I may have to address that by splitting them up and making a modding wiki. Right now everything is in very early stages.

For certain I am not trying to replace sites like TAL, TESNexus, the Nexus, the CK Wiki, or UESP Wiki.

This thread is mostly just for discussing things. What things I don't know yet. I'll be honest I am making new decisions as I go. As I will mention below most of the reports for changes or issues should be made on the Wiki GitHub tracker.

One goal I do have however is to preserve some of the Bethesda posts and their information. As I do so I will link to the Bethesda post as the source in the credits. Once I have integrated the links into a page on the wiki you can consider those posts obsolete. If there was good information in a link to that post that links to a dead domain then I did not preserve the entry and or the dead link. I will not be linking to any Wayback Machine or web archive links such as archive.gamedev.net. A secondary goal I have is to verify every link and provide only links that are active and that don't look like a virus ridden haven for data mining. I may have a few sites that look somewhat questionable but only when I feel if it looks somewhat legitimate.

If you need to communicate about a link you can provide feedback here. Please keep the feedback constructive. Any decisions I make in regards to any feedback may not be final however, I also may not want to deal with it depending on the request itself.

The Wiki can be found at this link: Wrye Bash Wiki
The GitHub tracker for reporting issues is here: GitHub Issue Tracker

One feature I would like to share with you is that the site is made entirely from Wrye Text a form of converting text to HTML that Wrye used for Wryemusings. The download comes with a sample document and an optional Python script you can use to convert your text document to HTML and see approximately what it would look like on the site. With that I do not take CSS and HTML submissions. Everything should conform to the Wrye Text standard as that is how I will be building all the pages. I am open to some suggestions but I do not want the Wrye Text to be expanded on so that it becomes another form of HTML. It is meant to be simple enough that anyone can understand the format and provide Wrye Bash related or modding related information to share with others. Please do not use CSS or HTML when you submit your text document as I will have to remove it unless it's basic enough. Things for sure that would not be allowed is Font Size changes.

For more information visit the Contribute: Generate Wiki pages from Text Files portion section of the wiki.

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5 hours ago, Sharlikran said:

For certain I am not trying to replace sites like TAL, TESNexus, the Nexus, the CK Wiki, or UESP Wiki.

Of course not, but I need to remind you that people in the Morrowind modding community has always relied on the Wayback Machine.  Because the Morrowind community is the oldest TES community with almost 20 years of activity and many TES sites went down in the golden era of modding back in 2002-2004 which I posted about here.

However, if you doesn't want to have a separate Morrowind section for Wrye Mash and the other mod user tools then consider the option to add more information on the Morrowind Modding Community Wiki that brucoms started more than 5 years ago.  Unfortunately, he went MIA and haven't been active on TAL since then.  I also know his account on TAL is no longer valid and the reason for that is unknown to me.

If you haven't done that there is also the ES Archive site, now defunct, in which Yacoby created a long time ago and I think he did that when Bethesda switch forum back in 2005/2006 (that explains why Arthmoor joined BSF in 2006 when he in reality joined BSF in 2002/2003).  Back then it was called the Elder Scrolls forum IIRC.

There is also the Morrowind Mythic Mods site, still working and updated.

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One more for you Sharlikran which you may not have seen before

Someone from the old Bethesda site, Tomlong75210 did a site called TES:Positive, which evolved into TES:COSI. Tomlong left the community RL took priority .. And then Andalaybay contacted Tomlong getting permission to preserve the site over on TAL, and it was then moved to TAL WIKI :

TESCOSI

I have linked you to a page you may not have seen before (although it has been presented I think in the Wrye Bash documentation a bit less fleshed out), which is a general guide to Wrye Bash BAIN Install Order (as opposed to Load Order)

 

The site was very well researched at the time, and has some gems of information among pages which may take quite a lot of looking through, a lot of people found it very useful .. But I dont know how up to date it is, so some info may be a bit behind the times for current Wrye Bash developments.

Anyway thought I would link it as a possible useful resource which may not be easy to find on The Assimilation Lab forum, if you dont know it is linked there to the WIKI

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If you click the TESCOSI Main Page link, there are more links on the right of the page .. Where exactly the lists of mods are I dont know, but I do know not everything is linked on the main page and may take a bit of finding among all the pages ..

.. As far as I know though, everything on the TAL WIKI is all that was recoverable.

I wouldn't try following old TESIV POSitive links, those sites will probably have changed hands with porn / malware pushers since.

UBlock Origins filter list is certainly blocking it as not trusted anymore.

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3 hours ago, alt3rn1ty said:

If you click the TESCOSI Main Page link, there are more links on the right of the page .. Where exactly the lists of mods are I dont know, but I do know not everything is linked on the main page and may take a bit of finding among all the pages ..

.. As far as I know though, everything on the TAL WIKI is all that was recoverable.

Yep, here is the link.

http://wiki.theassimilationlab.com/tescosi/Where_and_How_to_Find_Mods

However, I know both elderscrolls.filefront.com and ElricM are now defunct sites and has been for over 5 years now.

Below is the last working snapshot for TES Search.

http://web.archive.org/web/20150113004755/http://www.tessearch.com/

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Thanks for changing that. :)

Although, I think it would be better to change it to "community patch" rather to an unofficial patch.

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