tyco Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Hello. When the Skyrim: Anniversary Edition was released I started a new game. Cleaned, patched, and with many mods on top (see list below). I am around 53 hours in and there is only one glitch that I found so far. It happened 2 times. First time around was when I visited the shrine of the Daedric Prince of Boethiah. When I tried to loot the NPC Eranya, the game froze. No CTD, but nothing happened either. So I Alt-Tabbed out and continued from an earlier save. Second time happened in Ansilvund Excavation. I was picking the lock of a container and the game froze again. I was running with a couple companions and had autosaves on, so I did an experiment. I ordered companion Sofia to loot the container. After that, I could open the empty container. However, when I tried to access Sofia's inventory, the game froze. This reminds me that there might be some item from a mod that is not behaving very well. I would be very grateful if anyone could help me out fixing this glitch. List of Mods: Spoiler Active Plugins: [spoiler] 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 ccASVSSE001-ALMSIVI.esm 06 ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm 07 ccBGSSSE002-ExoticArrows.esl 08 ccBGSSSE003-Zombies.esl 09 ccBGSSSE004-RuinsEdge.esl 0A ccBGSSSE005-Goldbrand.esl 0B ccBGSSSE006-StendarsHammer.esl 0C ccBGSSSE007-Chrysamere.esl 0D ccBGSSSE010-PetDwarvenArmoredMudcrab.esl 0E ccBGSSSE011-HrsArmrElvn.esl 0F ccBGSSSE012-HrsArmrStl.esl 10 ccBGSSSE014-SpellPack01.esl 11 ccBGSSSE019-StaffofSheogorath.esl 12 ccBGSSSE020-GrayCowl.esl 13 ccBGSSSE021-LordsMail.esl 14 ccMTYSSE001-KnightsoftheNine.esl 15 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl 16 ccTWBSSE001-PuzzleDungeon.esm 17 ccEEJSSE001-Hstead.esm 18 ccQDRSSE002-Firewood.esl 19 ccBGSSSE018-Shadowrend.esl 1A ccBGSSSE035-PetNHound.esl 1B ccFSVSSE001-Backpacks.esl 1C ccEEJSSE002-Tower.esl 1D ccEDHSSE001-NorJewel.esl 1E ccVSVSSE002-Pets.esl 1F ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl 20 ccBGSSSE034-MntUni.esl 21 ccBGSSSE045-Hasedoki.esl 22 ccBGSSSE008-Wraithguard.esl 23 ccBGSSSE036-PetBWolf.esl 24 ccFFBSSE001-ImperialDragon.esl 25 ccMTYSSE002-VE.esl 26 ccBGSSSE043-CrossElv.esl 27 ccVSVSSE001-Winter.esl 28 ccEEJSSE003-Hollow.esl 29 ccBGSSSE016-Umbra.esm 2A ccBGSSSE031-AdvCyrus.esm 2B ccBGSSSE038-BowofShadows.esl 2C ccBGSSSE040-AdvObGobs.esl 2D ccBGSSSE050-BA_Daedric.esl 2E ccBGSSSE052-BA_Iron.esl 2F ccBGSSSE054-BA_Orcish.esl 30 ccBGSSSE058-BA_Steel.esl 31 ccBGSSSE059-BA_Dragonplate.esl 32 ccBGSSSE061-BA_Dwarven.esl 33 ccPEWSSE002-ArmsOfChaos.esl 34 ccBGSSSE041-NetchLeather.esl 35 ccEDHSSE002-SplKntSet.esl 36 ccBGSSSE064-BA_Elven.esl 37 ccBGSSSE063-BA_Ebony.esl 38 ccBGSSSE062-BA_DwarvenMail.esl 39 ccBGSSSE060-BA_Dragonscale.esl 3A ccBGSSSE056-BA_Silver.esl 3B ccBGSSSE055-BA_OrcishScaled.esl 3C ccBGSSSE053-BA_Leather.esl 3D ccBGSSSE051-BA_DaedricMail.esl 3E ccBGSSSE057-BA_Stalhrim.esl 3F ccBGSSSE066-Staves.esl 40 ccBGSSSE067-DaedInv.esm 41 ccBGSSSE068-Bloodfall.esl 42 ccBGSSSE069-Contest.esl 43 ccVSVSSE003-NecroArts.esl 44 ccVSVSSE004-BeAFarmer.esl 45 ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm 46 ccFFBSSE002-CrossbowPack.esl 47 ccBGSSSE013-Dawnfang.esl 48 ccRMSSSE001-NecroHouse.esl 49 ccEDHSSE003-Redguard.esl 4A ccEEJSSE004-Hall.esl 4B ccEEJSSE005-Cave.esm 4C ccKRTSSE001_Altar.esl 4D ccCBHSSE001-Gaunt.esl 4E ccAFDSSE001-DweSanctuary.esm 4F Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp [Version 4.2.8] 50 Unofficial Skyrim Creation Club Content Patch.esl 51 RSkyrimChildren.esm [Version 1.1.2] 52 MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm 53 Occ_Skyrim_Tamriel.esp 54 TrueHUD.esl 55 3DNPC.esp 56 MajesticMountains_Moss.esp 57 RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm 58 myrwatchhomefixer.esp 59 Occ_Skyrim_AnnEdition.esp 5A Lux - Resources.esp 5B Lux - Master plugin.esm 5C UHDAP - en0.esp 5D UHDAP - en1.esp 5E UHDAP - en2.esp 5F UHDAP - en3.esp 60 UHDAP - en4.esp 61 UHDAP - MusicHQ.esp 62 FISS.esp 63 SkyUI_SE.esp 64 Particle Patch for ENB.esp 65 Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp 66 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 67 AOS_ISC_Integration.esp 68 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 69 MfgFix.esp 6A VioLens SE.esp [Version 2.30] 6B DeadlyCombat.esp 6C DeadlyCombatMCM.esp 6D Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp 6E Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp 6F Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp 70 Heritage_02.esp 71 Flame Meshes Patch.esp 72 Smoking Torches And Candles.esp 73 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp [Version 2.9.1] 74 FNIS.esp 75 SGEyebrows.esp 76 WM Flora Fixes.esp [Version 1.0] 77 ENB Light.esp 78 AOS - ENB Light patch.esp 79 Vivid WeathersSE.esp 7A Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Vivid Weathers Patch.esp 7B Folkvangr - Grass and Landscape Overhaul.esp 7C Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 7D Book Covers Skyrim.esp 7E WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp [Version 1.5] 7F Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp [Version 8] 80 Joy of Perspective.esp 81 WetandCold.esp 82 Vivid Weathers - Wet and Cold patch.esp 83 NoGrassias Ultimate.esp 84 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 85 Origins Of Forest - 3D Forest Grass.esp 86 MajesticMountains.esp 87 Cloaks.esp 88 Inigo.esp 89 EmbersHD.esp 8A SofiaFollower.esp 8B ISC_drinking_sound_fix.esp 8C Footprints.esp 8D Footprints - ENB.esp 8E Rudy Nordic Pottery SSE.esp 8F Legendary Alpha Shields.esp 90 HPP - Vaermina's Torpor.esp 91 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp 92 PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp 93 Frost Meshes Patch.esp 94 TrueDirectionalMovement.esp 95 MCMHelper.esp 96 RSC 3DNPC Patch.esp 97 RaceMenu.esp 98 XPMSE.esp 99 aMidianBorn_Book of Silence.esp 9A icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp 9B 3DNPC0.esp 9C 3DNPC1.esp 9D iHUD.esp 9E dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 9F ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp A0 FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp A1 Inigo Riding Patch (ESPFE).esp A2 SofiaTaleOfTheTongues.esp A3 Sofia - USSEP & Hearthfires Patch.esp A4 Sofia - RDO Patch.esp A5 Immersive Patrols II.esp A6 Lucien.esp [Version 1.6.3] A7 Lucien-AnniversaryEdition-Patch.esp [Version 1.6.3a] A8 InigoWhistleKey.esp A9 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp AA Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp AB MyrwatchVaultFix - USCCCP Patch.esp AC AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp AD Immersive Weapons.esp AE Enhanced Enemy AI.esp AF Immersive Weapons_WACCF_Patch.esp B0 Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp B1 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp B2 HothFollower.esp B3 RDO - USSEP Patch.esp B4 Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.8] B5 Ars Metallica.esp [Version 2.0.6] B6 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp B7 Convenient Horses.esp B8 Convenient Horses Anniversary Edition Patch.esp B9 OpenFaceGuardHelmetsSSE.esp BA Dr_Bandolier.esp BB Bijin AIO.esp BC DSerCombatGameplayOverhaul.esp BD ISC Immersive Armors Patch.esp ** JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp BE RSChildren.esp [Version 1.2.0] BF skyforgedShields.esp C0 SofiaFollowerBodyFix.esp C1 AOS_EBT Patch.esp ** WACCF_ACE_JOP_Patch.esp C2 SubsurfaceScatteringShader.esp C3 Lux.esp C4 Lux - Bittercup Patch.esp C5 Lux - CC Fish patch.esp C6 Lux - Bloodchill Manor patch.esp C7 Lux - Dawnfang CC.esp C8 Lux - Dead Mans Dread Patch.esp C9 Lux - Elite Crossbows.esp CA Lux - Farmer patch.esp CB Lux - Forgotten Seasons.esp CC Lux - Ghosts of the Tribunal CC.esp CD Lux - Hendraheim patch.esp CE Lux - Myrwatch patch.esp CF Lux - Nchuanthumz Dwarven Home patch.esp D0 Lux - Necrohouse patch.esp D1 Lux - Pets of Skyrim CC.esp D2 Lux - Saints and Seducers patch.esp D3 Lux - Shadowfoot Sanctum patch.esp D4 Lux - Staff of Hasedoki CC.esp D5 Lux - The Cause patch.esp D6 Lux - Tundra Homestead patch.esp D7 Lux - USSEP patch.esp D8 Lux - Umbra CC.esp D9 Lux - Vigil Enforcer CC.esp DA Lux - Wraithguard patch.esp DB RealisticWaterTwo.esp DC RealisticWaterTwo - Alt Volcanic Watercolor.esp DD RealisticWaterTwo - Myrwatch Patch.esp DE Landscape Patches.esp DF VIS-Core-JOP-Patch.esp E0 Bashed Patch, 0.esp E1 Smashed Patch.esp [Version 44] [/spoiler] P.S.: I do not know much of Creation Kit scripting. But I leave the question: is it possible to inspect the FormID's from the items in the container? Then, say, try to pin the mod that added or modified that item with help of xEdit? Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr1957 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Unless someone spots a mod that they know to have a history of causing this issue, you will likely have to troubleshoot the problem yourself. Very likely it is a mod added item, but you may wish to verify the Master files just to rule out that it is an issue with them. Next thing to do is to check that you have all the required patches as needed for your mods, and that all your mods have all their requirements installed. Finally, if you still have the issue, you need to troubleshoot your load order. For that, follow this general outline: Troubleshooting Your Load Order As for using tools such as xEdit, if you were already familiar with it, then it would definitely be worthwhile to take a look at your build in it. However, unless you already know what you should be looking for and why, it would take far longer to learn how to use xEdit to spot potential issues and conflicts, than it would to track down the issue without using it. Good luck, tyco! Let us know how things go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 It's probably not related, but one thing that stands out to me is that you have two different automated conflict resolution patches active. The Bashed Patch, and a Smashed Patch. You should only be using the one generated by Wrye Bash. The one from xEdit is obsolete and has been something that Elminster is considering pulling from the program. smr1957 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr1957 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Arthmoor said: It's probably not related, but one thing that stands out to me is that you have two different automated conflict resolution patches active. The Bashed Patch, and a Smashed Patch. You should only be using the one generated by Wrye Bash. The one from xEdit is obsolete and has been something that Elminster is considering pulling from the program. I missed that - but yeah, the Smashed Patch has been obsolete for a quite a long while, and is likely overwriting info in the Bashed Patch, causing issues. Though, as Arthmoor said, that may not be related to your problem. Still, it should be taken care of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyco Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 Thank you for taking the time to reply. I suspect there is a leveled list problem. It affects items from mages (Eranya was a mage, the container and other mages inside Ansilvund Excavation have that kind of loot as well). Figured there were some "mashed" settings that I did not understand very well. I won't use smashed patch anymore. Btw, some plugins were handcrafted in xEdit. They affect some compatibility that was lost even with WryeBash (Joy of Perspective, immersive sounds and grass preferences from "No Grassias"). Maybe I just need to learn to apply the right tags and let Bashed Patch take care of it. I will be following your recommendations, starting a new game with less mods installed at once, and try to add one by one. It's crazy, but I never finished Skyrim (Oldrim). Last played Special Edition in 2019. I am able to boot the save game, even played for a while with these mods until a random crash appeared. But mostly, I was just too confused from the choices I made! So right now I am aiming for a bug free (hopefully) AE game. Guess killing that troll never gets old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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