Tel Nalta SE 2.10

Ac3s, I hope you had a good break this summer. Sorry to hear how upsetting the Nexus modlist decision was for everyone. But, I'm so glad to have found your mods here! I finally moved from oldrim to SSE and your Tel Nalta mod was top priority for me to find.

Oh wow.. it's so good to see this , thank you very much for uploading it here! For a while, I've been wanting to do a Dunmer playthrough (probably starting off on Solstheim via LAL), and I was saddened to see this was unavailable. Bloody Nexus....

Currently, I'm busy with a wannabee Norse character, but I'm very much looking forward to trying this sometime later. Cheers!

By the way, looking at the images I'm getting just the strongest Uvirith's Legacy vibes. The siren call of Morrowind... *sigh* (because, of course, I don't have enough to keep me busy! )

On 8/27/2021 at 6:23 PM, thappysnek said:

Ac3s, I hope you had a good break this summer. Sorry to hear how upsetting the Nexus modlist decision was for everyone. But, I'm so glad to have found your mods here! I finally moved from oldrim to SSE and your Tel Nalta mod was top priority for me to find.

I'm glad you enjoy the mod, summer was pretty messed up with what Nexus did tbh, how they instantly banned me without so much as a single official warning on my account first, they could have just taken away my comment posting privileges for like a month or whatever, but instead they decided as in their own words "enough is enough, we don't want you nor your mods anymore, byebye" because I was opposing them too much on the forums and they just banned me completely for it, they just seem to make up whatever they want and label stuff they don't like as "misinformation" while rarely giving strait answers themselves, its all so messed up how they do things now with censorship, deleting comments, locking topics, banning people who speak out, which is truly sad because they became the biggest modding website by doing the exact opposite of how they are behaving now. But I guess this is what happens when you become the "biggest and most popular", greed sets in and ruins all.

On 8/28/2021 at 1:52 AM, Sonja said:

By the way, looking at the images I'm getting just the strongest Uvirith's Legacy vibes

Tel Nalta was indeed based on the Morrowind Uvirith Player Tower, I remember fondly how RussianRanger send me screenshots and videos on how the interior looked and then I even made sketches on paper for the Tel Nalta interior layout, granted we couldn't just fly to the top like in Morrowind with the elevation spell so thats where the stairs came in

so glad this mod is available again! definitely one of my absolute favourite mods. just one question, why is the normal vers. called 'delete' on my mods list? 

On 8/29/2021 at 6:22 AM, Katsoa said:

why is the normal vers. called 'delete' on my mods list?

-Show me a screenshot.

-Are you still using a file that you once got from Nexus? On Nexus I renamed all my files to "delete" right before they got permanently deleted, but I don't understand how that can have anything to do with the files here on AFK mods, are you certain you have downloaded the files from AFK mods?

-Test out if Immersion and Cheat versions also say "delete" or not.

-Which mod program are you using? Have you tried a manual install?

8 hours ago, Ac3s said:

-Show me a screenshot.

-Are you still using a file that you once got from Nexus? On Nexus I renamed all my files to "delete" right before they got permanently deleted, but I don't understand how that can have anything to do with the files here on AFK mods, are you certain you have downloaded the files from AFK mods?

-Test out if Immersion and Cheat versions also say "delete" or not.

-Which mod program are you using? Have you tried a manual install?

-no this is not the file that I once got from nexus, I double checked and reinstalled each version just to check, each is named 'delete' once installed.

-like what I said above, all versions are saying 'delete.' 

-I am using vortex and from what I can see on the website here there is only a manual install option?

attached screenshots:

Vortex mods list after installing any version:

Importing the file initially:

What is shows in my downloads folder: 

What it shows on vortex after installing:

thank u

10 hours ago, Katsoa said:

-I am using vortex

ty for the good feedback and pics, makes it easier to pinpoint what might cause it.

Clearly Nexus lied and did not delete all my mod data then, you are using vortex which is a Nexus mod program, you then install the Tel Nalta files from AFK mods but you enter them into Vortex, then Vortex still goes to look at the "meta"-data on Nexus, meta data is like a bit of file information (name, data, file size, stuff like that) but doesnt have to include the actual files.

So Nexus clearly did not remove that meta-data, I can only hope they did indeed delete the actual mod files or else they lied once again, and Vortex goes to compare the remaining meta-data on Nexus which is likely why you come up with the name "delete" for my mod now since the last thing I did on Nexus was to rename all my mod files to "delete" before filling in that deletion form(from their deadline) on Nexus and then Nexus telling me it was all permanently deleted.

I suggest you do the following:

1. unload the v2.10 mod from Vortex.

2. try to simply edit the .esp file in the creation kit really quick and all you need to do is increase the version number to anything above 2.10, like 2.11 (I don't think you need to even load the mod, just open the creation kit, select the file, and you'll see the version number right there, increase it and close the creation kit, then reopen the creation kit and check if version is still indeed increased), maybe just by doing this the meta-data on Nexus won't be used anymore since the higher version number never existed on Nexus to begin with. If you could do this and tell me how it went I'd appreciate it, cause if you can confirm it does indeed helped to prevent this "remove" issue then all I need to do is increase my version number to prevent other people from having the same issue like you.

3. load the v2.11 mod into Vortex, see if name goes back to "delete" or not.

4. if none of the above works, don't use Vortex for my mod and simply manually install it and drop it to he bottom of your skyrim mod list and hope it works out, I never used vortex so I don't know exactly how it functions, but clearly its comparing data still on Nexus and giving you this issue.

I think if it has a Meta.ini, you could delete it to stop vortex from 'talking' to nexus. But it would need to be done prior to install. I use Wrye Bash, so I had no idea what a meta.ini was. I looked it up and found out they are unnecessary.

Hey so I had the issue where erielin is following me forever and unfortunately i can read the forum post about it since it was taken down. So how do it fix it?

20 hours ago, Chondro said:

Hey so I had the issue where erielin is following me forever and unfortunately i can't read the forum post about it since it was taken down. So how do it fix it?

copy paste from that topic:

WARNING:Two things have been reported to not work properly since converting the mod to Skyrim Special Edition, we suspect it has something to do with players using follower mods and then the player manually trying to change the creatures though dialogues given by these follower mods, if you experience an issue like this PLEASE let us know what follower mods you use and what actions you took ingame to get to this issue with the creatures, the more information you provide the better we can attempt to solve this, because as of right now we seriously lack information and all reports given by players so far were lacking in this.

-The first is the Elven child "Eriëlin" that will follow you and act as a pet follower (like dogs ingame) the moment you talk to her, her dialogues seem to get broken for some players and then she won't be able to be dismissed.
-The second thing is the summon alter in the Catacombs, some players won't be able to turn these creatures "back to dust" at the altar since again this dialogue option from the altar itself seems to malfunction.

If however you did talk to the Elven child "Eriëlin", you can get rid of her with console commands.
Her base ID: B68A7A
-depending on your own game and what mods you use, the base ID will be slightly different in the first 2 number or letters that get added, so open console and type "Tel_Nalta", you will see many things in the list, what are the first 2 numbers or letters of those ID's?(mine is 79) Remember that and add it to the front of Eriëlin's base ID.
-open console and type "show playeranimalcount", it should say "1" since shes following you.
-type "set playeranimalcount to 0"
-type "setessential 79B68A7A 0", kill her. (again, the 79 in front of the ID is from my game, yours will likely be different)
-type "setessential 79B68A7A 1"
-select her corpse with left mouse button in console, then type "recycleactor", also type "resurrect"
Now shes back alive, back on essential, no longer counting as a "pet follower" and she is also no longer following you, now please don't talk to her again.

If however you did summon a creature from the altar in the Catacombs, you can get rid of it with console commands.
Summon Altar creatures base ID's:
Deathhound: B6819E ,Armored Deathhound: B681F9, Armored Deathhound: B681FC, Draugr Archer: B684EA, Draugr Berserker: B68501, Draugr Caster: B684DC, Draugr Warrior: B6850C, Feral Minion: B68517, Feral Minion: B68518, Burnt Spriggan: B68196, Frost Gargoyle: B68217, Lightning Gargoyle: B68216, Poisonous Gargoyle: B68215
An example, lets say you summoned the Armored Deathhound(B681F9):
-depending on your own game and what mods you use, the base ID will be slightly different in the first 2 number or letters that get added, so open console and type "Tel_Nalta", you will see many things in the list, what are the first 2 numbers or letters of those ID's?(mine is 79) Remember that and add it to the front of the base ID's.
-Now type "setessential 79B681F9 0", close console, kill creature. (again, the 79 in front of the ID is from my game, yours will likely be different).
-You can actually keep using the Summon Altar like this, however the script will remember your last 2 summoned creatures, so if you want to summon this Armored Deathhound again, you will need to summon and kill 2 more creatures with console commands in this manner.

You can leave comments here, remember to tell us what actions you took ingame with your followers and ESPECIALLY if you used any follower mods to somehow change them, without proper info we can't do much.

Also in version 2.10 there were more Altar Summon Creatures added and those base ID's arn't added in this topic because I havn't gotten around to it...and nobody asked or even replied about it in all this time so...

On 8/31/2021 at 7:40 AM, Ac3s said:

ty for the good feedback and pics, makes it easier to pinpoint what might cause it.

Clearly Nexus lied and did not delete all my mod data then, you are using vortex which is a Nexus mod program, you then install the Tel Nalta files from AFK mods but you enter them into Vortex, then Vortex still goes to look at the "meta"-data on Nexus, meta data is like a bit of file information (name, data, file size, stuff like that) but doesnt have to include the actual files.

So Nexus clearly did not remove that meta-data, I can only hope they did indeed delete the actual mod files or else they lied once again, and Vortex goes to compare the remaining meta-data on Nexus which is likely why you come up with the name "delete" for my mod now since the last thing I did on Nexus was to rename all my mod files to "delete" before filling in that deletion form(from their deadline) on Nexus and then Nexus telling me it was all permanently deleted.

I suggest you do the following:

1. unload the v2.10 mod from Vortex.

2. try to simply edit the .esp file in the creation kit really quick and all you need to do is increase the version number to anything above 2.10, like 2.11 (I don't think you need to even load the mod, just open the creation kit, select the file, and you'll see the version number right there, increase it and close the creation kit, then reopen the creation kit and check if version is still indeed increased), maybe just by doing this the meta-data on Nexus won't be used anymore since the higher version number never existed on Nexus to begin with. If you could do this and tell me how it went I'd appreciate it, cause if you can confirm it does indeed helped to prevent this "remove" issue then all I need to do is increase my version number to prevent other people from having the same issue like you.

3. load the v2.11 mod into Vortex, see if name goes back to "delete" or not.

4. if none of the above works, don't use Vortex for my mod and simply manually install it and drop it to he bottom of your skyrim mod list and hope it works out, I never used vortex so I don't know exactly how it functions, but clearly its comparing data still on Nexus and giving you this issue.

sorry I forgot to answer/follow up on this. unfortunately I tried to use creation club and even though this was a very simple fix it just was not working with me, tried to fix the error I was getting by editing the config but it didn't help

therefore I just installed it manually by dropping right into my data folder for skyrim. so far I haven't had any issues with the mod though and it's almost fully built and furnished. absolutely beautiful btw! 

(if u still want me to try and fix this for other people's sake, I'll attempt it again and let u know) 

On 9/25/2021 at 6:55 PM, Katsoa said:

(if u still want me to try and fix this for other people's sake, I'll attempt it again and let u know) 

Not sure if Creation Club is the same as Creation Kit, either way its up to you if you want to continue to test or not, but since my mod is no longer on Nexus people should really just manually install it because Vortex is a Nexus program, the issue your having with Vortex renaming a mod from another website to "Deleted" really is a Nexus issue and should be talked about with them, its their causing, not mine. Though I do try to help where I can but its Nexus' responsibility to begin with.

On 9/27/2021 at 5:31 AM, Ac3s said:

Not sure if Creation Club is the same as Creation Kit

I meant creation kit  I see it's a nexus issue, and if it's not causing in game problems, doesn't really bother me (or others I assume). Thanks for the help. 

I might be literally the only person in the world who cares about this, but does the new location of the Lady Stone get a new map marker? And would it still work properly if I'm using Atlas Map Markers?

On 11/8/2021 at 12:09 PM, TheRealGinsekai said:

I might be literally the only person in the world who cares about this, but does the new location of the Lady Stone get a new map marker? And would it still work properly if I'm using Atlas Map Markers?

No, Tel Nalta marker IS the original Lady Stone marker, so no new marker for the stone is added, if you fast travel to Tel Nalta its literally a 10 second walk...

As for it working with Atlas Map Markers, I don't know, I don't use that mod, so maybe you can give it a try and see for yourself.

4 hours ago, Ac3s said:

No, Tel Nalta marker IS the original Lady Stone marker, so no new marker for the stone is added, if you fast travel to Tel Nalta its literally a 10 second walk...

As for it working with Atlas Map Markers, I don't know, I don't use that mod, so maybe you can give it a try and see for yourself.

Thanks for the reply! A quick playtest is exactly what I did. The Tel Nalta map marker works fine, and the Lady Stone's functionality works fine, so I'll take it. The only (minor) issue is with the shipwreck south of the island Tel Nalta sits on. I'm guessing this mod removes it, which is no big deal because it doesn't contain anything unique. But Atlas Map Markers DOES add a marker for it, which effectively points to a clam in my game. >_> All in all, nothing major. I haven't tried building the mushroom tower itself yet, but it looks like a fantastic player home.

I just found out that "The People of Skyrim 2" has a conflict with this mod. There is an NPC named Rustlius Salt-Torn that has a small camp smack in the middle of the island Tel Nalta grows on.

Edit;

I tried to post a comment on TPOS2's page as well, but the author has locked the comments. Also, my web searches found no patch.

23 hours ago, Rev Elevenclaw said:

I just found out that "The People of Skyrim 2" has a conflict with this mod...

-Choose one mod or the other.

-or make a little patch yourself, I suggest you use TES5EDIT (SE version, whatever they call that) and search for the location where that specific NPC is at, and then just delete all records of everything that got changed in that area on "the people of skyrim" so that NPC and hes little camp is just gone.

-Or even easier, use console commands (disable or markfordelete) ingame to remove all items of hes camp while keeping the NPC, I'm sure he will wander around, I just hope the other mod did not change navmeshes or landscape, if it did you need to put my mod below the other mod in the mod load order.

TPOS2 is right below my ESM's, so Tel Nalta is has far more priority, being near the middle of my LO. I think making a patch would be elementary in this case. The camp is small, as I said, and the NPC has nothing but basic AI. I will try to make a patch that moves him and his camp.

I really just wanted to let it be known for posterity.

Alrighty then, the patch is released for The People of Skyrim 2.

Get it here or here (NSFW).

is tel nalta compatible with skyrim anniversary edition ??, since skyrim AE is basically skyrim SE with additional creation club content, i think tel nalta will compatible with skyrim AE

i can install this mod with vortex (of course it's called "delete" on vortex but it's ok), i can see tel nalta marker on the map and even teleport there

but when i arrive on tel nalta location, there is nothing there, that's just a field, there is no sapling or fertile soil to start growing, or even workbench (cheat version), all version just like that (i already try all)

@Fjolfarr

I don't know if Tel Nalta will be compatible with Skyrim AE, I have not tested that but if what you say its true that its just like Skyrim SE with some creation club content then it "should" be compatible.

As for you not seeing any saplings to grow...read the first line under ~Features~, it says you first need to get a letter from a courier, this got changed in the last version of Tel Nalta to streamline the entire process and make things easier "behind the scenes", so now no matter what version you have, you NEED to get that letter from the courier first.

-Cheat version: courier will find you instantly, can take a while though since you keep moving around and fast traveling, but usually going to Whiterun and just waiting there for like a day or two will make him show up quickly.

-Normal version: same as Cheat.

-Immersion version: Courier will only find you after you become a member of House Telvanni.

If you test the mod more on Skyrim AE, then plz let me know if it works.

As for the mod being renamed to "DELETED", thats something you can thank Nexus for, my mod is no longer on Nexus yet they still keep the meta-data of my mod after they said they had deleted everything from my mod and let Vortex screw up the mod name like that, I suggest you don't use Vortex for my mod and just manually install it, or use Vortex for my mod and accept the fact its called "deleted", I just hope nothing else gets broken on my mod because of this, you should go check in your actual data folder and see if the .esp and .bsa files are in fact still the same name or not, if the .esp gets renamed to "deleted" and then .bsa is still called "tel_nalta" then obviously the mod won't work, if both these files got renamed to "deleted" and then you install another mod that also gets renamed to "deleted" then you will get major issues as well because then my deleted.esp file can start using the deleted.bsa file of another mod.

So please go check and let me know, does Vortex only rename the mod to "deleted" ONLY in the Vortex list, or does it ALSO rename the actual mod files located under your skyrim/data folder to "deleted" too?

If Vortex renames the actual mod files in your data folder, then you cannot use Vortex for my mod since it will then obviously break the entire mod as explained above, which I would consider sabotage to get revenge towards mod authors who decided to leave Nexus. So please go check and let me know what Vortex is actually doing.

Has anyone tried deleting the Meta.ini before installing with Vortex? It should prevent the issue. I would test it myself, but I use Wrye Bash.

11 hours ago, Ac3s said:

@Fjolfarr

I don't know if Tel Nalta will be compatible with Skyrim AE, I have not tested that but if what you say its true that its just like Skyrim SE with some creation club content then it "should" be compatible.

As for you not seeing any saplings to grow...read the first line under ~Features~, it says you first need to get a letter from a courier, this got changed in the last version of Tel Nalta to streamline the entire process and make things easier "behind the scenes", so now no matter what version you have, you NEED to get that letter from the courier first.

-Cheat version: courier will find you instantly, can take a while though since you keep moving around and fast traveling, but usually going to Whiterun and just waiting there for like a day or two will make him show up quickly.

-Normal version: same as Cheat.

-Immersion version: Courier will only find you after you become a member of House Telvanni.

 

If you test the mod more on Skyrim AE, then plz let me know if it works.

As for the mod being renamed to "DELETED", thats something you can thank Nexus for, my mod is no longer on Nexus yet they still keep the meta-data of my mod after they said they had deleted everything from my mod and let Vortex screw up the mod name like that, I suggest you don't use Vortex for my mod and just manually install it, or use Vortex for my mod and accept the fact its called "deleted", I just hope nothing else gets broken on my mod because of this, you should go check in your actual data folder and see if the .esp and .bsa files are in fact still the same name or not, if the .esp gets renamed to "deleted" and then .bsa is still called "tel_nalta" then obviously the mod won't work, if both these files got renamed to "deleted" and then you install another mod that also gets renamed to "deleted" then you will get major issues as well because then my deleted.esp file can start using the deleted.bsa file of another mod.

So please go check and let me know, does Vortex only rename the mod to "deleted" ONLY in the Vortex list, or does it ALSO rename the actual mod files located under your skyrim/data folder to "deleted" too?

If Vortex renames the actual mod files in your data folder, then you cannot use Vortex for my mod since it will then obviously break the entire mod as explained above, which I would consider sabotage to get revenge towards mod authors who decided to leave Nexus. So please go check and let me know what Vortex is actually doing.

wow, it's actually WORK!, this version of tel nalta also work on skyrim AE

all i need just wating the courier, actually i try load this mod when my character on solstheim, then i go to harbor and meet the courier (but that courier doesn't give me anything, he just talk), i think that's a courier you mean but nothing happened, i still can't find sapling and workbench after i travel to tel nalta location (using fast travel),

BUT i do you suggestion to waiting on whiterun until i meet courier again, then the message "you're invited to house telvanni" (or something like that) appeared, and finally i see the sapling, i CAN grow the town!, wow i'm so happy

for the name issues, this mod still named "Delete" on vortex but i think it's just the vortex interface (Vortex also has feature to change the mod's name, version, and even author name, so i can change it freely without affecting the file name), the file in folder still named "Tel Nalta", and of course no gameplay issues regarding naming problem by vortex, this mod is working NORMALLY with vortex

thank you so much, i really love this mod, i think no other house mod that batter than tel nalta

@Fjolfarr

Thank you for the feedback, so luckily the files are not changed, so its just a Vortex user interface issue which in the end should not cause any real issues. Glad you got the letter, I just hope the rest of the mod will work fine as well on Skyrim AE, and who knows maybe in a year we will get Skyrim Ultimate Edition... And a year later Skyrim Reborn Edition...