Hopper25 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Hello everyone, I encountered a major problem with my game today. I cannot seem to run my last saves although they were fine until I exited the game and tried to then load them again... Getting a CTD after a couple of seconds in the loading screen I did not uninstall any mods, installed all of them before playing and did not update any of them (no available updates). I enclose my log (created upon trying to load the save) below: My Load Order: GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1 Campfire.esm=1 RSkyrimChildren.esm=1 HighResTexturePack01.esp=1 HighResTexturePack02.esp=1 HighResTexturePack03.esp=1 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1 RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1 DragonShoutVoice.esp=1 NirShor-MusicalLore.esp=1 Glowing Eyes.esp=1 iHUD.esp=1 Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp=1 AOS.esp=1 pwc-extra interactions (dg).esp=1 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1 AOS2_EBT Patch.esp=1 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1 Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp=1 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1 Proper Aiming.esp=1 HARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.esp=1 Harvest Overhaul Merged.esp=1 SkyUI.esp=1 towConversation.esp=1 Windsong Character Overhaul.esp=1 Aela & Serana.esp=1 RaceMenu.esp=1 Werewolf Claws.esp=1 OrcishMaskedHelmet.esp=1 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1 Enhanced Mighty Dragons & Enemies.esp=1 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1 Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1 WerewolfPerksExpanded.esp=1 KJ Tattoos 2K.esp=1 Thundering Shouts.esp=1 OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp=1 Purewaters.esp=1 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1 Immersive Speechcraft.esp=1 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp=1 Realistic werewolf speed.esp=1 Rebirth Monster.esp=1 DragonbornAscendant.esp=1 Cloaks.esp=1 OverflowingEnchant.esp=1 My Immersive Armors.esp=1 My Better Visuals.esp=1 Extended Encounters.esp=1 KORsHuntingGround.esp=1 dovahkiinrelax.esp=1 RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp=1 TrueStorms.esp=1 AOS2_TrueStorms Patch.esp=1 TrueStorms-RLO.esp=1 VioLens.esp=1 Merged Patch.esp=1 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1 My Log: [08/12/2015 - 01:42:16AM] Papyrus log opened (PC) [08/12/2015 - 01:42:16AM] Function GetEffectMagnitudes in the empty state on type Ingredient does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets. [08/12/2015 - 01:42:16AM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms) [08/12/2015 - 01:42:16AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total) [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Cannot open store for class "Tree", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Cannot open store for class "_frost_clothingsystem", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Cannot open store for class "_de_deletecraftingobjectscript", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Cannot open store for class "PF__0203A5CA", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__0203A5CA to (0903A5CA) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Cannot open store for class "PF__0203A5C8", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__0203A5C8 to (0903A5C8) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Cannot open store for class "PF__0203A5C9", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__0203A5C9 to (0903A5C9) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Cannot open store for class "PF__0203A5C6", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__0203A5C6 to (0903A5C6) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Cannot open store for class "PF__02039AF4", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__02039AF4 to (09039AF4) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Cannot open store for class "PF__02039573", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__02039573 to (09039573) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Cannot open store for class "_DE_DELETEMETEST", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Error: Unable to bind script _DE_DELETEMETEST to (09061F69) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Cannot open store for class "PF__02039576", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__02039576 to (09039576) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Cannot open store for class "PF__02039578", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:27AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__02039578 to (09039578) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:42:28AM] Cannot open store for class "TIF__020012CD", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:28AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020012CD to topic info 340012CD on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:42:28AM] Cannot open store for class "TIF__020099ED", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:28AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020099ED to topic info 340099ED on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:42:28AM] Cannot open store for class "TIF__020099EF", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:28AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020099EF to topic info 340099EF on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:42:28AM] Cannot open store for class "TIF__02008F1D", missing file? [08/12/2015 - 01:42:28AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__02008F1D to topic info 34008F1D on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:07AM] Error: Unable to bind script _de_deletecraftingobjectscript to alias _Camp_PlayerAlias on quest _Camp_MainQuest (09022033) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:07AM] Error: Property GlenmorilCovenAlias on script uskpretroactive210script attached to USKPRetroactive210 (020058C7) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (54) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/12/2015 - 01:43:07AM] Error: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script uskpretroactive210script attached to USKPRetroactive210 (020058C7) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Property NPCTilma on script QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF attached to SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest (19003DEF) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0003BDE9) is not the right type [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script USKP_QF_ChangeLocation16_0300489C attached to USKPChangeLocation16 (0200489C) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] VM is freezing... [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] VM is frozen [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Reverting game... [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__02039AF4 to (09039AF4) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020099EF to topic info 340099EF on quest sirsal_immersivedialogue_conversation (34005903) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020099ED to topic info 340099ED on quest sirsal_immersivedialogue_conversation (34005903) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__02039576 to (09039576) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__0203A5CA to (0903A5CA) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script _DE_DELETEMETEST to (09061F69) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__02008F1D to topic info 34008F1D on quest sirsal_immersivedialogue_conversation (34005903) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__0203A5C6 to (0903A5C6) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__02039573 to (09039573) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__02039578 to (09039578) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020012CD to topic info 340012CD on quest sirsal_immersivedialogue_mugging (34000D62) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__0203A5C8 to (0903A5C8) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script PF__0203A5C9 to (0903A5C9) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script _de_deletecraftingobjectscript to alias _Camp_PlayerAlias on quest _Camp_MainQuest (09022033) because their base types do not match [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Property GlenmorilCovenAlias on script uskpretroactive210script attached to USKPRetroactive210 (020058C7) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (54) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script uskpretroactive210script attached to USKPRetroactive210 (020058C7) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Property NPCTilma on script QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF attached to SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest (19003DEF) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0003BDE9) is not the right type [08/12/2015 - 01:43:08AM] Error: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script USKP_QF_ChangeLocation16_0300489C attached to USKPChangeLocation16 (0200489C) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaultDuke Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 best would be to also post your load order. what's the mod with the index 34? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hana Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 A papyrus log is not going to help you determine the cause of a CTD, it helps determine troublesome areas (and you have quite a few). As Gruftlord said, post your load order. How many saves have you gone back to try? Have you tried starting a new game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper25 Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 Ok people, I updated the above post with my Load Order. Gruftlord, mod number 34 is "Face to face conversation". Hana, I am able to load the like 6th or 7th save, and I am then able to load all saves that I create in that session, but as soon as I exit the game, they become unusable again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsanePlumber Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I do not see anywhere Bash Patch... Try to use Wrye Bash (you have a choice of three versions) and Bash Patch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper25 Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 Could lack of such a patch cause the CTD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsanePlumber Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Yes lack of Bash Patch can lead to instabilities. Wrye Bash General Readme Wrye Bash Advanced Readme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hana Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 - Is your load order properly sorted by LOOT? - What is in your merged patch? - I don't see the mod you mentioned above "face to face conversations" in that list? - What versions of the unofficial patches are you using? - I've heard "Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp" is very script heavy and could cause issues. I'm not blaming this mod specifically but try deactivating it to see if you can load your saves. - It looks like mod "09 - campfires.esm" is also causing log spam. Not sure what its about or why it would be script heavy. - Have you cleaned all your mods with TES5Edit? Lack of a bashed patch will not cause CTD's but it is a good thing to have for it's merging capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper25 Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 Ok, I reinstalled the game, rebuilt my mod list (minus some unnecessary mods) and build the Wrye bash patch... We will see PS. Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper25 Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 @Hana: - All my mods have always been sorted, ealier by BOSS, now by LOOT (I have installed the latest, more "animated" version of it along with the whole game today) - "My Merged Patch" has only contained a compatibility record between some Non-Player Characters from Cloaks of Skyrim and Revenge of the enemies (not using it now, I have copied just a couple of records between RotE and CoS to resolve conflicts) - I cannot explain the absence of the "Face to Face Conversation" mod in my mod list (perhaps a NMM glitch, I reinstalled the Manager from scratch as well, and I will not be using Face to Face Conversation anymore) - I am always using the latest version of the Unofficial Patches - I am currently using Immersive Citizens, but the crashes have occured a long time before it was even on the Nexus - Also, I will not be using the Campfire mod anymore - All of my dirty mods indicated by LOOT, even the official DLCs, have been cleaned, all separately in TESEdit by me (ITM and Undeleted References records) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaultDuke Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 try without the face to face conversion mod. i know all the older ones, that tried to force the PC head to turn directions were horribly buggy. The newer ones seem not to attract as many bug reports in their comment sections, but i'd still just avoid them just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hana Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Ok .... good. If your merged patch contains records of a mod you're no longer using then you don't need it any more. One last question .... are you using SKSE and the memory patch? Random CTD's could just be overload. What are your system specs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper25 Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 I agree that "Face to Face" is incredibly buggy, however, I am pretty sure I already had save game problems before installing it... Not using it anymore though. Immersive NPC AI plays nicely and restores some game contents, which I have always liked. I am not using Memory Patch since it decreased my performance a lot. However, as far as memory goes, I used a memory optimizer called ATTK Power Loader as it gave me a nice boost... I have also uninstalled that and will only test the game along with SKSE Loader 1.7.3... My new Load Order: Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1 HighResTexturePack01.esp=1 HighResTexturePack02.esp=1 HighResTexturePack03.esp=1 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1 Windsong Character Overhaul.esp=1 Aela & Serana.esp=1 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1 Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1 Cloaks.esp=1 Rebirth Monster.esp=1 DragonbornAscendant.esp=1 DragonShoutVoice.esp=1 ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp=1 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1 Harvest Overhaul Merged.esp=1 My Immersive Armors.esp=1 My Better Visuals.esp=1 Extended Encounters.esp=1 Realistic werewolf speed.esp=1 Immersive detection of NPC.esp=1 SkyUI.esp=1 iHUD.esp=1 Immersive Speechcraft.esp=1 RaceMenu.esp=1 RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1 KJ Tattoos 2K.esp=1 TrueStorms.esp=1 pwc-extra interactions (dg).esp=1 Werewolf Claws.esp=1 NirShor-MusicalLore.esp=1 Thundering Shouts.esp=1 KORsHuntingGround.esp=1 dovahkiinrelax.esp=1 VioLens.esp=1 Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp=1 Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp=1 OverflowingEnchant.esp=1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 My specs: System: Windows 7 (64 bit) Processor: IntelCore i5 2500 K GPU: ASUS GTX 560 DirectCU II TOP (925 MHz/4200 MHz) 1GB Memory: Corsair Vengeance 1866Mhz, 8 GB RAM I am also consistently using an enchantments visual overhaul called: "Animated Enchantments Overhaul - OVERFLOWING MAGIC". Hope it is not the cause of problems as I really like it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaultDuke Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Which memory patch gave you performance troubles? Enboost or skse memory tweak? I'm pretty certain that is a hint you installed it wrong and maybe tend to read descriptions no carefully enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper25 Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 I had some serious stuttering with ENBoost. I didn't know about different patches. I have also been using tools like ATTK power loader, some background boosters (like FPS Booster and TimerResolution), Skyrim Stuttering Fix (for the 64Hz bug) and even HiAlgoBoost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaultDuke Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Get rid of all that stuff and search for 'skse ini for lazy users' on the nexus. Setting up enboost can be a bit tricky, so we will save that for later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper25 Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 Thanks a bunch, I got it. I will try it out just the SKSE .ini file and let you know if I experience any crashes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsanePlumber Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Lack of a bashed patch will not cause CTD's but it is a good thing to have for it's merging capabilities. I had no intention to mislead anyone. We learn throughout entire live. These guides are very good. Advice contained in them tested by a large number of users. Skyrim Graphics Guide Skyrim Project Stability Skyrim Stability Guide Speed and Stability Guide for ENB Skyrim Revisited: Legendary Edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper25 Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 So far, with the SKSE.ini the game is very smooth and I have not had a single crash so far (keep those fingers crossed for me). From additional "tools" I am only using Razer Game Booster (shuts down background programs for maximum game performance), and as for the lighting, I suddenly found the vanilla lighting to be quite appealing and refreshing (using just the FXAA injector, preset 4). Getting 60 FPS most of the time. Also, could anyone please tell me if any of the below "fixes" are of any "safe" use? http://www.rcrncommunity.com/five-quick-skyrim-tweaks-you-may-not-know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsanePlumber Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 "Also, could anyone please tell me if any of the below "fixes" are of any "safe" use" Guide to the INI file settings Skyrim Configuration Settings STEP Forum Never change this setting iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes (remember that now SKSE improves management of memory available for the game) The only settings that you can change in [Papyrus] section is: Logs Disabled bEnableLogging=0 bEnableTrace=0 bLoadDebugInformation=0 Logs Enabled bEnableLogging=1 bEnableTrace=1 bLoadDebugInformation=1 They enable recording of log files which are saved in C:\Users\USERNAME\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\Logs\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper25 Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Good. So basically no changes allowed Could I perhaps add a line that would make the camera a bit more centered? : http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/7430/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsanePlumber Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 These settings should not be harmful. Remember to always backup saves and INI files before any changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 About the only thing I'd touch from that site are shadow settings, which you'll probably need to play around with anyway to match your system. Those Papyrus tweaks are bad news, telling people to shut of screenshots is just dumb, and the rest is geared toward ENB users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper25 Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Thanks Arthmoor. My current game seems to be very stable. I wondered about using a mod called "Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2". Does anyone know if it could affect performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopper25 Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 Hello friends, I no longer experience crash on load, howeve, I got a couple of CTDs today in a specific place on the map... Could you perhaps have a look at my Logs? Log1: [08/28/2015 - 01:11:14AM] Papyrus log opened (PC) [08/28/2015 - 01:11:14AM] Function GetEffectMagnitudes in the empty state on type Ingredient does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets. [08/28/2015 - 01:11:14AM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms) [08/28/2015 - 01:11:14AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total) [08/28/2015 - 01:11:23AM] Cannot open store for class "TIF__020012CD", missing file? [08/28/2015 - 01:11:23AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020012CD to topic info 170012CD on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:11:23AM] Cannot open store for class "TIF__020099ED", missing file? [08/28/2015 - 01:11:23AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020099ED to topic info 170099ED on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:11:23AM] Cannot open store for class "TIF__020099EF", missing file? [08/28/2015 - 01:11:23AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020099EF to topic info 170099EF on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:11:23AM] Cannot open store for class "TIF__02008F1D", missing file? [08/28/2015 - 01:11:23AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__02008F1D to topic info 17008F1D on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:11:28AM] Error: Property GlenmorilCovenAlias on script uskpretroactive210script attached to USKPRetroactive210 (020058C7) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (54) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:11:28AM] Error: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script uskpretroactive210script attached to USKPRetroactive210 (020058C7) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:11:28AM] Error: Property NPCTilma on script QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF attached to SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest (29003DEF) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0003BDE9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:11:28AM] Error: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script USKP_QF_ChangeLocation16_0300489C attached to USKPChangeLocation16 (0200489C) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:11:28AM] VM is freezing... [08/28/2015 - 01:11:28AM] VM is frozen [08/28/2015 - 01:11:29AM] Reverting game... [08/28/2015 - 01:11:29AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020012CD to topic info 170012CD on quest sirsal_immersivedialogue_mugging (17000D62) because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:11:29AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__02008F1D to topic info 17008F1D on quest sirsal_immersivedialogue_conversation (17005903) because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:11:29AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020099ED to topic info 170099ED on quest sirsal_immersivedialogue_conversation (17005903) because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:11:29AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020099EF to topic info 170099EF on quest sirsal_immersivedialogue_conversation (17005903) because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:11:29AM] Error: Property GlenmorilCovenAlias on script uskpretroactive210script attached to USKPRetroactive210 (020058C7) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (54) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:11:29AM] Error: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script uskpretroactive210script attached to USKPRetroactive210 (020058C7) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:11:29AM] Error: Property NPCTilma on script QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF attached to SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest (29003DEF) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0003BDE9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:11:29AM] Error: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script USKP_QF_ChangeLocation16_0300489C attached to USKPChangeLocation16 (0200489C) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:11:38AM] Loading game... [08/28/2015 - 01:11:38AM] VM is thawing... [08/28/2015 - 01:11:38AM] Error: File "Ars Metallica.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCompatibility (12017C74)].zho_compatibility.RunCompatibility() - "zho_compatibility.psc" Line 74 [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCompatibility (12017C74)].zho_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "zho_compatibility.psc" Line 29 [08/28/2015 - 01:11:38AM] Error: File "HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCompatibility (12017C74)].zho_compatibility.RunCompatibility() - "zho_compatibility.psc" Line 90 [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCompatibility (12017C74)].zho_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "zho_compatibility.psc" Line 29 [08/28/2015 - 01:11:38AM] Error: File "Ars Metallica.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCCompatibility (120079D9)].zhoc_compatibility.RunCompatibility() - "zhoc_compatibility.psc" Line 79 [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCCompatibility (120079D9)].zhoc_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "zhoc_compatibility.psc" Line 50 [08/28/2015 - 01:11:38AM] Error: File "Chesko_Frostfall.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCCompatibility (120079D9)].zhoc_compatibility.RunCompatibility() - "zhoc_compatibility.psc" Line 95 [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCCompatibility (120079D9)].zhoc_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "zhoc_compatibility.psc" Line 50 [08/28/2015 - 01:11:38AM] Error: File "Chesko_WearableLantern.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCCompatibility (120079D9)].zhoc_compatibility.RunCompatibility() - "zhoc_compatibility.psc" Line 111 [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCCompatibility (120079D9)].zhoc_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "zhoc_compatibility.psc" Line 50 [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] =======================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod: Start ]======================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] VioLens is now performing a compatibility check. Papyrus warnings about missing or [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] unloaded files may follow. This is normal and should be ignored. [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] =======================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod: Start ]======================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] Cannot open store for class "jcontainers", missing file? [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] Error: Unable to obtain function call information - returning None stack: [alias Player on quest VL_Player (1F023F14)].VL_Player.VLLoadGame() - "VL_Player.psc" Line 41 [alias Player on quest VL_Player (1F023F14)].VL_Player.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "VL_Player.psc" Line 25 [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp1" stack: [alias Player on quest VL_Player (1F023F14)].VL_Player.VLLoadGame() - "VL_Player.psc" Line 41 [alias Player on quest VL_Player (1F023F14)].VL_Player.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "VL_Player.psc" Line 25 [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] ===========================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod ]=========================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] JContainers Not Installed. [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] ===========================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod ]=========================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] Error: File "CombatDramaOverhaul.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [alias Player on quest VL_Player (1F023F14)].VL_Player.VLLoadGame() - "VL_Player.psc" Line 59 [alias Player on quest VL_Player (1F023F14)].VL_Player.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "VL_Player.psc" Line 25 [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] ===========================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod ]=========================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] Combat Drama Overhaul Not Installed. [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] ===========================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod ]=========================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:11:39AM] InitWidgetLoader() [08/28/2015 - 01:11:40AM] ========================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod: End ]========================================= [08/28/2015 - 01:11:40AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:11:40AM] VioLens compatibility check complete. [08/28/2015 - 01:11:40AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:11:40AM] ========================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod: End ]========================================= [08/28/2015 - 01:11:41AM] Error: Cannot cast from None to SKI_WidgetBase[] stack: [iHUDControlQuest (16000805)].ihudwidgetscript.initialize() - "iHUDWidgetScript.psc" Line 38 [iHUDControlQuest (16000805)].ihudcontrolscript.startUp() - "iHUDControlScript.psc" Line 93 [iHUDMaintainanceQuest (16002853)].iHUDMaintainanceScript.startUp() - "iHUDMaintainanceScript.psc" Line 20 [alias PlayerAlias on quest iHUDMaintainanceQuest (16002853)].iHUDLoadScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "iHUDLoadScript.psc" Line 11 [08/28/2015 - 01:11:41AM] ================================================[ Moonlight Tales ]=============================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:11:41AM] Performing compatibility check. Ignore the papyrus warnings that may appear bellow. [08/28/2015 - 01:11:41AM] ================================================[ Moonlight Tales ]=============================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:11:42AM] ================================================[ Moonlight Tales ]=============================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:11:42AM] Compatibility check complete. [08/28/2015 - 01:11:42AM] ================================================[ Moonlight Tales ]=============================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:12:13AM] VM is freezing... [08/28/2015 - 01:12:13AM] VM is frozen [08/28/2015 - 01:12:13AM] Saving game... [08/28/2015 - 01:12:13AM] VM is thawing... [08/28/2015 - 01:12:29AM] VM is freezing... [08/28/2015 - 01:12:29AM] VM is frozen [08/28/2015 - 01:12:29AM] Saving game... [08/28/2015 - 01:12:29AM] VM is thawing... [08/28/2015 - 01:13:52AM] VM is freezing... [08/28/2015 - 01:13:52AM] VM is frozen [08/28/2015 - 01:13:52AM] Saving game... [08/28/2015 - 01:13:52AM] VM is thawing... [08/28/2015 - 01:14:12AM] VM is freezing... [08/28/2015 - 01:14:12AM] VM is frozen [08/28/2015 - 01:14:12AM] Saving game... [08/28/2015 - 01:14:12AM] VM is thawing... Log2: [08/28/2015 - 01:22:51AM] Papyrus log opened (PC) [08/28/2015 - 01:22:51AM] Function GetEffectMagnitudes in the empty state on type Ingredient does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets. [08/28/2015 - 01:22:51AM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms) [08/28/2015 - 01:22:51AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total) [08/28/2015 - 01:23:00AM] Cannot open store for class "TIF__020012CD", missing file? [08/28/2015 - 01:23:00AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020012CD to topic info 170012CD on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:23:00AM] Cannot open store for class "TIF__020099ED", missing file? [08/28/2015 - 01:23:00AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020099ED to topic info 170099ED on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:23:00AM] Cannot open store for class "TIF__020099EF", missing file? [08/28/2015 - 01:23:00AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020099EF to topic info 170099EF on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:23:00AM] Cannot open store for class "TIF__02008F1D", missing file? [08/28/2015 - 01:23:00AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__02008F1D to topic info 17008F1D on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:23:07AM] Error: Property GlenmorilCovenAlias on script uskpretroactive210script attached to USKPRetroactive210 (020058C7) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (54) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:23:07AM] Error: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script uskpretroactive210script attached to USKPRetroactive210 (020058C7) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:23:07AM] Error: Property NPCTilma on script QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF attached to SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest (29003DEF) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0003BDE9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:23:07AM] Error: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script USKP_QF_ChangeLocation16_0300489C attached to USKPChangeLocation16 (0200489C) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:23:07AM] VM is freezing... [08/28/2015 - 01:23:07AM] VM is frozen [08/28/2015 - 01:23:08AM] Reverting game... [08/28/2015 - 01:23:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020012CD to topic info 170012CD on quest sirsal_immersivedialogue_mugging (17000D62) because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:23:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020099ED to topic info 170099ED on quest sirsal_immersivedialogue_conversation (17005903) because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:23:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__02008F1D to topic info 17008F1D on quest sirsal_immersivedialogue_conversation (17005903) because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:23:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script TIF__020099EF to topic info 170099EF on quest sirsal_immersivedialogue_conversation (17005903) because their base types do not match [08/28/2015 - 01:23:08AM] Error: Property GlenmorilCovenAlias on script uskpretroactive210script attached to USKPRetroactive210 (020058C7) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (54) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:23:08AM] Error: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script uskpretroactive210script attached to USKPRetroactive210 (020058C7) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:23:08AM] Error: Property NPCTilma on script QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF attached to SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest (29003DEF) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0003BDE9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:23:08AM] Error: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script USKP_QF_ChangeLocation16_0300489C attached to USKPChangeLocation16 (0200489C) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [08/28/2015 - 01:23:21AM] Loading game... [08/28/2015 - 01:23:21AM] VM is thawing... [08/28/2015 - 01:23:21AM] Error: File "Ars Metallica.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCompatibility (12017C74)].zho_compatibility.RunCompatibility() - "zho_compatibility.psc" Line 74 [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCompatibility (12017C74)].zho_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "zho_compatibility.psc" Line 29 [08/28/2015 - 01:23:21AM] Error: File "HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCompatibility (12017C74)].zho_compatibility.RunCompatibility() - "zho_compatibility.psc" Line 90 [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCompatibility (12017C74)].zho_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "zho_compatibility.psc" Line 29 [08/28/2015 - 01:23:21AM] Error: File "Ars Metallica.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCCompatibility (120079D9)].zhoc_compatibility.RunCompatibility() - "zhoc_compatibility.psc" Line 79 [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCCompatibility (120079D9)].zhoc_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "zhoc_compatibility.psc" Line 50 [08/28/2015 - 01:23:21AM] Error: File "Chesko_Frostfall.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCCompatibility (120079D9)].zhoc_compatibility.RunCompatibility() - "zhoc_compatibility.psc" Line 95 [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCCompatibility (120079D9)].zhoc_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "zhoc_compatibility.psc" Line 50 [08/28/2015 - 01:23:21AM] Error: File "Chesko_WearableLantern.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCCompatibility (120079D9)].zhoc_compatibility.RunCompatibility() - "zhoc_compatibility.psc" Line 111 [alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCCompatibility (120079D9)].zhoc_compatibility.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "zhoc_compatibility.psc" Line 50 [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] =======================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod: Start ]======================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] VioLens is now performing a compatibility check. Papyrus warnings about missing or [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] unloaded files may follow. This is normal and should be ignored. [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] =======================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod: Start ]======================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] Cannot open store for class "jcontainers", missing file? [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] Error: Unable to obtain function call information - returning None stack: [alias Player on quest VL_Player (1F023F14)].VL_Player.VLLoadGame() - "VL_Player.psc" Line 41 [alias Player on quest VL_Player (1F023F14)].VL_Player.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "VL_Player.psc" Line 25 [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp1" stack: [alias Player on quest VL_Player (1F023F14)].VL_Player.VLLoadGame() - "VL_Player.psc" Line 41 [alias Player on quest VL_Player (1F023F14)].VL_Player.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "VL_Player.psc" Line 25 [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] ===========================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod ]=========================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] JContainers Not Installed. [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] ===========================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod ]=========================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] Error: File "CombatDramaOverhaul.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [alias Player on quest VL_Player (1F023F14)].VL_Player.VLLoadGame() - "VL_Player.psc" Line 59 [alias Player on quest VL_Player (1F023F14)].VL_Player.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "VL_Player.psc" Line 25 [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] ===========================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod ]=========================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] Combat Drama Overhaul Not Installed. [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:23:22AM] ===========================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod ]=========================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:23:23AM] InitWidgetLoader() [08/28/2015 - 01:23:23AM] ========================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod: End ]========================================= [08/28/2015 - 01:23:23AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:23:23AM] VioLens compatibility check complete. [08/28/2015 - 01:23:23AM] [08/28/2015 - 01:23:23AM] ========================================[ VioLens - A Killmove Mod: End ]========================================= [08/28/2015 - 01:23:24AM] Error: Cannot cast from None to SKI_WidgetBase[] stack: [iHUDControlQuest (16000805)].ihudwidgetscript.initialize() - "iHUDWidgetScript.psc" Line 38 [iHUDControlQuest (16000805)].ihudcontrolscript.startUp() - "iHUDControlScript.psc" Line 93 [iHUDMaintainanceQuest (16002853)].iHUDMaintainanceScript.startUp() - "iHUDMaintainanceScript.psc" Line 20 [alias PlayerAlias on quest iHUDMaintainanceQuest (16002853)].iHUDLoadScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "iHUDLoadScript.psc" Line 11 [08/28/2015 - 01:23:24AM] ================================================[ Moonlight Tales ]=============================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:23:24AM] Performing compatibility check. Ignore the papyrus warnings that may appear bellow. [08/28/2015 - 01:23:24AM] ================================================[ Moonlight Tales ]=============================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:23:25AM] ================================================[ Moonlight Tales ]=============================================== [08/28/2015 - 01:23:25AM] Compatibility check complete. [08/28/2015 - 01:23:25AM] ================================================[ Moonlight Tales ]=============================================== Load order: Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1 HighResTexturePack01.esp=1 HighResTexturePack02.esp=1 HighResTexturePack03.esp=1 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1 Windsong Character Overhaul.esp=1 Aela & Serana.esp=1 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1 DragonShoutVoice.esp=1 ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp=1 Harvest Overhaul Merged.esp=1 Realistic werewolf speed.esp=1 Immersive detection of NPC.esp=1 SkyUI.esp=1 iHUD.esp=1 Immersive Speechcraft.esp=1 RaceMenu.esp=1 RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1 KJ Tattoos 2K.esp=1 pwc-extra interactions (dg).esp=1 Werewolf Claws.esp=1 NirShor-MusicalLore.esp=1 Thundering Shouts.esp=1 VioLens.esp=1 Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp=1 AOS.esp=1 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1 Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1 Cloaks.esp=1 Rebirth Monster.esp=1 DragonbornAscendant.esp=1 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1 My Better Visuals.esp=1 My Immersive Armors.esp=1 Extended Encounters.esp=1 TrueStorms.esp=1 KORsHuntingGround.esp=1 dovahkiinrelax.esp=1 Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp=1 OverflowingEnchant.esp=1 AOS Patches.esp=1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 As you can see, I have limited my LO to a more less acceptable minimum, installing only some texture and animation mods. 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