AndalayBay Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I'm doing the battle for Windhelm and giving ol' Ulfie his due. I'm running Open Cities and that might be contributing to my issues - I'm really not sure. First, I don't get a chance to hear Tullius' speech to the troops. As soon as I run along the bridge just in front of the stables, the quest updates saying that I've listened to the General's speech. Then all the soldiers spawn way ahead of me and they start entering the city. Once I enter the city, I don't see Tullius anywhere, but that might be normal, I'm not sure. I start hacking my way through Stormcloaks until I reach the palace. Then I enter the palace and Tullius and Rikke spawn in front of me. Now the second problem I have: the battle music never stops. I can't hear any of the speech Tullius gives to Ulfric or his buddy. Even after we've killed Ulfric, the battle music won't stop. I left the city and fast travelled to Whiterun - still the music plays. I entered Breezehome - and the music continues. I tried to sell some stuff at Warmaiden's and I noticed the prices were all out of whack. I checked my Papyrus logs and suddenly there were a whole bunch of errors from Economics of Skyrim. Those only appear when I enter Whiterun after this battle, with the music stuck on. So there seems to be something out of whack with this entire sequence that seems to cause more errors later. Any ideas? If this is nothing to do with the USKP, then we can move this thread elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glass smasher Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 FWIW, the whole "music not stopping" thing happens when the True High King Ulfric sacks Solitude as well. Equal opportunity annoyance, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 We can leave the thread here for now until it's determined where it actually goes. That bug sounds like something that others have reported in the vanilla game though. I swear I've seen posts about it on the support forums for people who aren't even using mods. One of those freak things. Did you try reloading a prior save and approaching again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndalayBay Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Did you try reloading a prior save and approaching again? Several times. I had to find the spot near Windhelm that I could fast travel to without getting the quest update right away. Once I found it, I fast travelled to the area outside Windhelm several times to try to get the battle to work right. Would you like Papyrus logs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Don't know if they'll help, but it can't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndalayBay Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Here you go: [01/24/2013 - 12:35:47AM] Papyrus log opened (PC) [01/24/2013 - 12:35:47AM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms) [01/24/2013 - 12:35:47AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total) [01/24/2013 - 12:35:55AM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1scwispwallscript", missing file? [01/24/2013 - 12:35:56AM] Cannot open store for class "chherdingquestscript", missing file? [01/24/2013 - 12:36:03AM] warning: Property BagOfHoldingARMO on script BagOfHoldingPlayerAliasScript attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest BagOfHoldingQUST (11052FE4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [01/24/2013 - 12:36:03AM] VM is freezing... [01/24/2013 - 12:36:03AM] VM is frozen [01/24/2013 - 12:36:03AM] Reverting game... [01/24/2013 - 12:36:04AM] warning: Property BagOfHoldingARMO on script BagOfHoldingPlayerAliasScript attached to alias PlayerAlias on quest BagOfHoldingQUST (11052FE4) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] Loading game... [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] Cannot open store for class "ARTH_QF_LALPatch21Quest_02037688", missing file? [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Unable to get type ARTH_QF_LALPatch21Quest_02037688 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded. [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] Cannot open store for class "USKP_QF_USKPChangeLocation08_02005E82", missing file? [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Unable to get type USKP_QF_USKPChangeLocation08_02005E82 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded. [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] Cannot open store for class "USKP_QF_USKPChangeLocation02_02007789", missing file? [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Unable to get type USKP_QF_USKPChangeLocation02_02007789 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded. [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] Cannot open store for class "ARTH_QF_LALPatch212_0203CCF1", missing file? [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Unable to get type ARTH_QF_LALPatch212_0203CCF1 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded. [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] Cannot open store for class "USKP_QF_USKPChangeLocation03_0200778B", missing file? [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Unable to get type USKP_QF_USKPChangeLocation03_0200778B referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded. [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] Cannot open store for class "USKP_QF_USKPChangeLocation09_02008584", missing file? [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Unable to get type USKP_QF_USKPChangeLocation09_02008584 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded. [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] Cannot open store for class "ARTH_QF_LALPatch216Quest_0214086A", missing file? [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Unable to get type ARTH_QF_LALPatch216Quest_0214086A referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded. [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] Cannot open store for class "USKP_QF_USKPChangeLocation01_02007788", missing file? [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Unable to get type USKP_QF_USKPChangeLocation01_02007788 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded. [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] Cannot open store for class "ARTH_QF_LALPatch218Quest_02046951", missing file? [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Unable to get type ARTH_QF_LALPatch218Quest_02046951 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded. [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Could not find type ARTH_QF_LALPatch216Quest_0214086A in the type table in save [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Could not find type ARTH_QF_LALPatch218Quest_02046951 in the type table in save [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Could not find type ARTH_QF_LALPatch212_0203CCF1 in the type table in save [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Could not find type ARTH_QF_LALPatch21Quest_02037688 in the type table in save [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Could not find type USKP_QF_USKPChangeLocation03_0200778B in the type table in save [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Could not find type USKP_QF_USKPChangeLocation02_02007789 in the type table in save [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Could not find type USKP_QF_USKPChangeLocation01_02007788 in the type table in save [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Could not find type USKP_QF_USKPChangeLocation09_02008584 in the type table in save [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] warning: Could not find type USKP_QF_USKPChangeLocation08_02005E82 in the type table in save [01/24/2013 - 12:36:11AM] VM is thawing... [01/24/2013 - 12:36:13AM] *** Convenient Horses *** Scanning for external resources. Errors might be logged. [01/24/2013 - 12:36:13AM] Error: File "Convenient Horse Herding.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [CH (15020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 66 [CH (15020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 94 [01/24/2013 - 12:36:13AM] Error: File "XFLMain.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [CH (15020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 67 [CH (15020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 94 [01/24/2013 - 12:36:13AM] Error: File "HothFollower.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [CH (15020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 68 [CH (15020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 94 [01/24/2013 - 12:36:13AM] Error: File "CompanionValfar.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [CH (15020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 69 [CH (15020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 94 [01/24/2013 - 12:36:13AM] *** Convenient Horses *** Scan complete. [01/24/2013 - 12:36:13AM] Error: Incorrect number of arguments passed. Expected 4, got 3. stack: [bagOfHoldingQUST (11052FE4)].BagOfHoldingQuestScript.Maintenance() - "BagOfHoldingQuestScript.psc" Line 107 [alias PlayerAlias on quest BagOfHoldingQUST (11052FE4)].BagOfHoldingPlayerAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "BagOfHoldingPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 12 [01/24/2013 - 12:36:16AM] Error: Unable to call SetWeight - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type stack: [ (FF001367)].ActorBase.SetWeight() - "<native>" Line ? [LightweightPotionsQUST (1B000800)].LightweightPotionsQuestScript.Maintenance() - "LightweightPotionsQuestScript.psc" Line 40 [alias PlayerAlias on quest LightweightPotionsQUST (1B000800)].LightweightPotionsPlayerScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "LightweightPotionsPlayerScript.psc" Line 7 [01/24/2013 - 12:36:31AM] MS11: Counting entrance to Windhelm -- 17 [01/24/2013 - 12:36:36AM] Error: Unable to call Is3DLoaded - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type stack: [item 9 in container (00000014)].defaultDisableHavokOnLoad.Is3DLoaded() - "<native>" Line ? [item 9 in container (00000014)].defaultDisableHavokOnLoad.OnCellAttach() - "defaultDisableHavokOnLoad.psc" Line 15 [01/24/2013 - 12:36:36AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp1" stack: [item 9 in container (00000014)].defaultDisableHavokOnLoad.OnCellAttach() - "defaultDisableHavokOnLoad.psc" Line 15 [01/24/2013 - 12:37:13AM] Error: Cannot call Play() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.Fragment_6() - "QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.psc" Line 1684 [01/24/2013 - 12:37:13AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp103" stack: [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.Fragment_6() - "QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.psc" Line 1684 [01/24/2013 - 12:37:13AM] Error: Cannot call Play() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.Fragment_6() - "QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.psc" Line 1685 [01/24/2013 - 12:37:13AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp103" stack: [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.Fragment_6() - "QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.psc" Line 1685 [01/24/2013 - 12:37:40AM] Error: Cannot call Disable() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [ (1E016797)].StockadeBarricade01ActivatorScript.OnDestructionStageChanged() - "StockadeBarricade01ActivatorScript.psc" Line 44 [01/24/2013 - 12:37:58AM] Error: Cannot call Disable() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [ (1E0169AB)].StockadeBarricade01ActivatorScript.OnDestructionStageChanged() - "StockadeBarricade01ActivatorScript.psc" Line 44 [01/24/2013 - 12:38:28AM] Error: Cannot call Disable() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [ (1E016A9E)].StockadeBarricade01ActivatorScript.OnDestructionStageChanged() - "StockadeBarricade01ActivatorScript.psc" Line 44 [01/24/2013 - 12:38:30AM] Error: (00085365): cannot enable an object with an enable state parent. stack: [ (00085365)].lvlpredatorscript.Enable() - "<native>" Line ? [ (00085365)].lvlpredatorscript.OnCellLoad() - "LvlPredatorScript.psc" Line 26 [01/24/2013 - 12:38:31AM] Error: (00085366): cannot disable an object with an enable state parent. stack: [ (00085366)].lvlpredatorscript.Disable() - "<native>" Line ? [ (00085366)].lvlpredatorscript.OnCellLoad() - "LvlPredatorScript.psc" Line 24 [01/24/2013 - 12:39:02AM] Error: Cannot call Disable() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [ (1E016B47)].StockadeBarricade01ActivatorScript.OnDestructionStageChanged() - "StockadeBarricade01ActivatorScript.psc" Line 44 [01/24/2013 - 12:40:32AM] VM is freezing... [01/24/2013 - 12:40:32AM] VM is frozen [01/24/2013 - 12:40:33AM] Saving game... [01/24/2013 - 12:40:33AM] VM is thawing... [01/24/2013 - 12:42:28AM] Info: *Achievement 23 awarded - a winnar is you!* [01/24/2013 - 12:42:49AM] Error: Cannot call MoveTo() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [CWFinale (000D1444)].QF_CWFinale_000D1444.Fragment_18() - "QF_CWFinale_000D1444.psc" Line 693 [01/24/2013 - 12:44:15AM] VM is freezing... [01/24/2013 - 12:44:15AM] VM is frozen [01/24/2013 - 12:44:15AM] Saving game... [01/24/2013 - 12:44:16AM] VM is thawing... [01/24/2013 - 12:47:07AM] Error: CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21): attempting to start event scoped quest outside of story manager. stack: [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].cwfortsiegescript.SetCurrentStageID() - "<native>" Line ? [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].cwfortsiegescript.SetStage() - "Quest.psc" Line 124 [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].cwfortsiegescript.SetStageBasedOnTrigger() - "CWFortSiegeScript.psc" Line 174 [alias TriggerPhase5A on quest CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].CWFortSiegePhaseTriggerScript.OnTriggerEnter() - "CWFortSiegePhaseTriggerScript.psc" Line 18 [01/24/2013 - 12:47:29AM] Error: CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21): attempting to start event scoped quest outside of story manager. stack: [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].cwfortsiegescript.SetCurrentStageID() - "<native>" Line ? [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].cwfortsiegescript.SetStage() - "Quest.psc" Line 124 [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].cwfortsiegescript.SetStageBasedOnTrigger() - "CWFortSiegeScript.psc" Line 172 [alias TriggerPhase4A on quest CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].CWFortSiegePhaseTriggerScript.OnTriggerEnter() - "CWFortSiegePhaseTriggerScript.psc" Line 18 [01/24/2013 - 12:47:45AM] Error: CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21): attempting to start event scoped quest outside of story manager. stack: [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].cwfortsiegescript.SetCurrentStageID() - "<native>" Line ? [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].cwfortsiegescript.SetStage() - "Quest.psc" Line 124 [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].cwfortsiegescript.SetStageBasedOnTrigger() - "CWFortSiegeScript.psc" Line 170 [alias TriggerPhase3A on quest CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].CWFortSiegePhaseTriggerScript.OnTriggerEnter() - "CWFortSiegePhaseTriggerScript.psc" Line 18 [01/24/2013 - 12:47:50AM] Error: CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21): attempting to start event scoped quest outside of story manager. stack: [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].cwfortsiegescript.SetCurrentStageID() - "<native>" Line ? [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].cwfortsiegescript.SetStage() - "Quest.psc" Line 124 [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].cwfortsiegescript.SetStageBasedOnTrigger() - "CWFortSiegeScript.psc" Line 168 [alias TriggerPhase2A on quest CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].CWFortSiegePhaseTriggerScript.OnTriggerEnter() - "CWFortSiegePhaseTriggerScript.psc" Line 18 [01/24/2013 - 12:48:13AM] VM is freezing... [01/24/2013 - 12:48:13AM] VM is frozen [01/24/2013 - 12:48:13AM] Saving game... [01/24/2013 - 12:48:14AM] VM is thawing... [01/24/2013 - 12:48:19AM] VM is freezing... [01/24/2013 - 12:48:19AM] VM is frozen This time I went back and tried to clear out more of the Stormcloaks before proceeding. It was a little better. The battle music was the slightly quieter version, which stops periodically. But it continued to start up again. At least I heard more of the discussion. The quest still updated before I actually heard Tullius' address to the troops though. Is there anyway I can get the damned battle music to stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Jesus. A lot going on in that list. Some legit stuff as far as I can see in the vanilla game too.This block broke because the vanilla CWFortSiegeCapital has broken properties defined for the two sounds it tried to start. [01/24/2013 - 12:37:13AM] Error: Cannot call Play() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.Fragment_6() - "QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.psc" Line 1684 [01/24/2013 - 12:37:13AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp103" stack: [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.Fragment_6() - "QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.psc" Line 1684 [01/24/2013 - 12:37:13AM] Error: Cannot call Play() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.Fragment_6() - "QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.psc" Line 1685 [01/24/2013 - 12:37:13AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp103" stack: [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.Fragment_6() - "QF_CWFortSiege_00087C21.psc" Line 1685 These look like minor screwups with OCS and some (or all) of the barricade objects. [01/24/2013 - 12:37:40AM] Error: Cannot call Disable() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [ (1E016797)].StockadeBarricade01ActivatorScript.OnDestructionStageChanged() - "StockadeBarricade01ActivatorScript.psc" Line 44 [01/24/2013 - 12:37:58AM] Error: Cannot call Disable() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [ (1E0169AB)].StockadeBarricade01ActivatorScript.OnDestructionStageChanged() - "StockadeBarricade01ActivatorScript.psc" Line 44 [01/24/2013 - 12:38:28AM] Error: Cannot call Disable() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [ (1E016A9E)].StockadeBarricade01ActivatorScript.OnDestructionStageChanged() - "StockadeBarricade01ActivatorScript.psc" Line 44 This and the rest below it, I don't get. The quest should still be running. [01/24/2013 - 12:47:07AM] Error: CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21): attempting to start event scoped quest outside of story manager. stack: [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].cwfortsiegescript.SetCurrentStageID() - "<native>" Line ? [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].cwfortsiegescript.SetStage() - "Quest.psc" Line 124 [CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].cwfortsiegescript.SetStageBasedOnTrigger() - "CWFortSiegeScript.psc" Line 174 [alias TriggerPhase5A on quest CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].CWFortSiegePhaseTriggerScript.OnTriggerEnter() - "CWFortSiegePhaseTriggerScript.psc" Line 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndalayBay Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 It looks like this is such a common problem that the UESP has a fix: removemusic MUScombatcivilwar I'll try that and see if peaceful quiet returns. I'm not sure about bartering in Whiterun though - we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndalayBay Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 This time I fast travelled to the farms outside of Whiterun and then rode into the city. Everything seems fine and I can barter normally. I used the console command to stop the music and all is blissful silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 This and the rest below it, I don't get. The quest should still be running. [alias TriggerPhase5A on quest CWFortSiegeCapital (00087C21)].CWFortSiegePhaseTriggerScript.OnTriggerEnter() - "CWFortSiegePhaseTriggerScript.psc" Line 18 I think I do and I wonder what exactly does the alias TriggerPhase5A do with the CWFortSiegeCapital (0087C21) quest except to trigger something in that quest. Is it a scripted event or is it a journal update via a script? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 It's a triggered event. That's an alias for one of the many trigger boxes the CW material has scattered everywhere. So it shouldn't have complained since it's only active when the quest it talks about is running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndalayBay Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 Windhelm is seriously screwed up after the battle. The fires are still raging, some of them in mid-air. And the new Jarl hasn't shown up. The debris has been removed from around the palace, but not outside. And the Windhelm map marker is gone. Lastly there's an Imperial soldier who's stuck outside on the bridge with his weapon drawn and ready to charge into the city. Once again, I'm not sure if these are base issues or because of Open Cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 It's a triggered event. That's an alias for one of the many trigger boxes the CW material has scattered everywhere. So it shouldn't have complained since it's only active when the quest it talks about is running. If you want to trigger something then that thing allow you to get triggered right, but if the trigger box isn't configured correctly what will happen or not happen if something along the way doesn't have what it's suppose to have in the first place. It could be almost anything a journal update or the player needs to be in certain spot etc, so anything a trigger box needs to have or not have is essential to make an alias work properly. Well it's obvious to me that something is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Because it's an alias, the script that works with it doesn't even exist until the quest holding the alias is running. That's why this makes no sense, because the quest IS running. In fact, it couldn't have thrown the error any other way. So what we have here is a paradox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Your explanation is exactly my point. Something is dead wrong that's for sure but the question is... What's wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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