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Interpreting Papyrus Log Errors So we've all obviously seen them. Log files filled with garbage that you suspect is making your game do weird things. Loads and loads of errors, warnings, and just plain weird messages that don't make a lot of sense. We've seen just about everything here both through the USKP tracker and via other sources for strange things that break Papyrus. I've gone fishing through what Google could turn up from various logs posted to Pastebin.com as well as our own tracker reports to hopefully bring some sense to the process of figuring out what an error message in your log means. If you happen to see something from your own work, I'm not picking on you. I grabbed what was available as examples. Plenty of other mods have them too. The goal here is hopefully to shed some light on how mod authors can fix them, and how users can help mod authors narrow down the more egregious cases. If anything in this guide is not accurate or you can provide additional information, please do so! The more we all know, the better things will get. Some errors in your log can be removed with the use of a save cleaner. Be warned! There is only one that is known to be safe and has been widely tested and proven so. Do not use anything other than the save cleaner written by Hadoram. It also has the added bonus of being able to clean out modified havok data as well. Hadoram's Save Cleaner can be found here: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363 Now, on to the various errors that can come up. Listed in no particular order because I simply grabbed examples as they became available. Please note these are general examples. Your errors obviously won't match the ones I've listed, just look for things that say the same or similar things. Errors While Loading a Save [06/19/2014 - 03:03:57PM] error: Native function GetEquippedObject in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Actor. Function will not be bound.Generally this type of error indicates that some portion of the engine (or the SKSE dll in this case) is expecting a certain function name to exist, but the compiled Papyrus files available to it do not have the information in them. Anything that would depend on these kinds of functions to operate will break. It would be highly unusual for this to occur in a standard mod that's not leveraging a custom DLL file of some kind. It almost always means SKSE is not properly reinstalled and will resolve itself once it has been. [02/24/2015 - 10:29:10PM] Warning: Variable ::VampireQuest_var on script ARTH_LAL_TriggerScript loaded from save not found within the actual object. This variable will be skipped.This is harmless, and probably a good thing if it happened after an update. It generally indicates the author removed a property they're no longer using and Papyrus is cleaning up the leftovers. If the mod these belong to did NOT get updated, then you have a problem and it could evolve into something serious if it's ignored and you keep playing. [02/24/2015 - 10:29:10PM] Cannot open store for class "ARTH_RRF_OrphanHanderScript", missing file? [02/24/2015 - 10:29:10PM] Warning: Unable to get type ARTH_RRF_OrphanHanderScript referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded. [02/24/2015 - 10:29:10PM] Warning: Could not find type ARTH_RRF_OrphanHanderScript in the type table in saveThis is what's known as an orphaned script (pun not intended here btw). It is caused either by uninstalling a mod, or by updating a mod which no longer has the mentioned script. It is generally harmless, but can sometimes be the cause of a CTD. These are safe to remove using the save cleaner. [01/28/2015 - 10:14:39AM] Error: Unable to bind script DLC2WaterScript to alias Water on quest DLC2TTF2 (0401AAC8) because their base types do not match.This error is caused by a script extending one type but being used on an incorrect type. In this particular instance, DLC2WaterScript incorrectly extended ObjectReference when it should have extended ReferenceAlias. This is an error that must be corrected by the mod's author. It should self correct when the game loads after it's been fixed, but only once the content is no longer actively being used. [02/11/2015 - 08:23:22PM] Error: Property Initiate1Alias on script uskpretroactive204script attached to USKPRetroactive204 (02012C3A) cannot be bound because alias Initiate1Alias on quest DarkBrotherhood (0001EA5C) is not the right type.This error is related to the above and occurs when a script has been set to attach to the wrong type of object (ie: a Quest script on an Objectrefence, etc.) and thus cannot be properly enabled by the game. If it's a well known mod (like the USKP in this instance) the cause is almost always going to be a conflict from another mod which has overwritten some of the data needed by the game. It can also be caused by the save game retaining data from an uninstalled mod. On rare occasions, authors may do this deliberately, but it has not been demonstrated to behave properly and may lead to errors in cases where that's been done. [06/19/2014 - 03:14:39PM] Error: Property LackMessage on script AATreasureMiscScript attached to (C50614F9) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (C503C770) is not the right type.Also somewhat related to the above two. This type of specific error where "NULL FORM" is mentioned tends to happen when a mod author removes a form (C503C770 in this case) from their mod but has not updated the properties on the ESP to remove the now deleted form. [01/28/2015 - 10:14:39AM] warning: Property AshSpawnAttachChancePercent on script DLC2AshSpawnAttackChanceScript attached to alias Player on quest DLC2Init (04016E02) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property.This is actually an error generated because of an ESP rather than a script. It means the script was recompiled, a property was removed, but the ESP that accompanies it was not properly updated to remove the property. This is easily fixed by the mod's author. It will cause no damage, but it's annoying, and definitely not correct. [02/06/2015 - 07:35:27PM] warning: Function fxDustDropRandomSCRIPT..OnLoad in stack frame 0 in stack 4266 differs from the in-game resource files - using version from saveThis is caused by a script that was actively being run when the game saved and has since been updated in the mod. This will continue to happen with each game load until the object causing it is encountered again while playing. Not every type of script this problem shows up in will do that though and options become limited if the script is from the vanilla game. [02/24/2015 - 10:29:10PM] Error: File "HearthfireMultiKid.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [ARTHRRFMoveFamilyToSeverinManor (4F0036C9)].arth_rrf_storeregistration.ModSupportChecks() - "ARTH_RRF_StoreRegistration.psc" Line 50 [alias Player on quest ARTHRRFMoveFamilyToSeverinManor (4F0036C9)].ARTH_RRF_PlayerAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "ARTH_RRF_PlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 7Probably the most common type of "error" you're going to see in the log. This isn't actually an error at all. It's a generic message spit out by one of the vanilla game functions that's used to check for the presence of other mods in your game. It just means that the mod it says doesn't exist is not being loaded right now. Ignore these. Errors While Playing Error: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type stack: [None].dht_IAFMonitorScript.RegisterForSingleUpdate() - "<native>" Line ? [None].dht_IAFMonitorScript.OnEffectStart() - "dht_IAFMonitorScript.psc" Line 16There is largely nothing that can be done about errors of this type. When a magic effect is ready to expire, the Papyrus VM will aggressively destroy the instance of the script. It will generate errors like this if the script had an event pending before this happened. Ignore these unless you know for certain what's causing it. [12/17/2014 - 11:59:16AM] Error: Cannot call IsInFaction() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [alias Soldier1000001001000000001 on quest CWOBAQuest (8303B24F)].CWOBAScript2.OnInit() - "CWOBAScript2.psc" Line 17 [12/17/2014 - 11:59:16AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp1" stack: [alias Soldier1000001001000000001 on quest CWOBAQuest (8303B24F)].CWOBAScript2.OnInit() - "CWOBAScript2.psc" Line 17This usually means that a property located in an ESP has not been filled in properly, leaving it empty, which in Papyrus is called "None". There are numerous things that require valid data to be processed that can throw this error, and the specific text for "None" errors will vary widely. It should be easy for a mod's author to fix, but generally requires a new game before such a fix would take effect due to the data already being baked into the save. It's also possible that the script simply isn't validating to make sure the property it's using has something in it. The second part where it mentions assigning None to a non-object variable will always accompany the original error in the call stack if something was trying to be assigned from the results. [11/02/2014 - 02:48:09PM] Error: Cannot call SetValue() on a None object, aborting function call stack: [_DE_Main_1_6 (88015CAE)]._de_epmonitor_1_6.MainLoop() - "_de_epmonitor_1_6.psc" Line 567 [_DE_Main_1_6 (88015CAE)]._de_epmonitor_1_6.OnUpdate() - "_de_epmonitor_1_6.psc" Line 470While this is basically the same as the above, it's important to notice that the originating function is an OnUpdate(). If you have logs where these show up repeatedly and fill them up, you will quickly find the game lagging and probably run into CTDs eventually. These OnUpdate() errors are known as "invalid registrations" and 999 times out of 1000 they are caused by people who disregard the advice not to uninstall mods on an active save. The ClearInvalidRegistrations setting in SKSE's ini file will correct these, but ONLY if they are from mods which no longer exist. That 1000th case is from a genuinely bad script. If it happens to be a vanilla script, there is nothing that can be done to correct it for that save. It is corrupt and beyond repair. Papyrus best practices dictate that mod authors use RegisterForSingleUpdate() for these types of scripts as it will limit the damage that is done if someone does something stupid. [02/25/2015 - 03:14:28PM] Error: Property GlenmorilCovenAlias on script USKPRetroactive210Script attached to USKPRetroactive210 (020058C7) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (54) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [02/25/2015 - 03:14:28PM] Error: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script USKPRetroactive210Script attached to USKPRetroactive210 (020058C7) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right type [02/25/2015 - 03:14:29PM] Error: Property DriftshadeSanctuaryAlias on script USKP_QF_ChangeLocation16_0300489C attached to USKPChangeLocation16 (0200489C) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (53) on <NULL quest> (0004B2D9) is not the right typeThis is an indication that there are properties on one quest which are linked back to another (in this case, USKP retro update scripts pointing to quest C00) where the quest record has been overridden by another mod and is blocking the "NULL Alias". The conflicting mod will either require a patch, or should include the missing data where possible. If this type of error happens entirely within a mod and DOES NOT conflict, then it means there are properties linked to aliases that have been deleted from a quest without the author properly cleaning up the remains. [12/06/2014 - 12:48:49AM] error: weroad08 (001065F4): attempting to start event scoped quest outside of story manager. stack: [weroad08 (001065F4)].wescript.SetCurrentStageID() - "<native>" Line ? [weroad08 (001065F4)].wescript.SetStage() - "Quest.psc" Line 124 [Item 2 in container (00000014)].WERoad08LetterScript.OnRead() - "WERoad08LetterScript.psc" Line 8This kind of error comes up when a quest controlled by the Story Manager is trying to be started outside of the Story Manager. If you have a quest managed by the SM, then ONLY the SM can start it. There are several known instances of this error coming up that suggest a failed quest but later turn out to just be a false alarm so errors of this nature are not 100% guaranteed to be a legitimate problem. [09/04/2014 - 12:46:21AM] error: (000BA1DD): cannot start scene because its parent quest was not running. stack: [ (000BA1DD)].SF_WEDL07Scene_000BA1DD.start() - "<native>" Line ? [WEDL07 (000B91E3)].QF_WEDL07_000B91E3.Fragment_7() - "QF_WEDL07_000B91E3.psc" Line 86Similar to the above, but with scenes instead of managed quests. A scene cannot execute if the quest it is stored in is not running. There are confirmed instances where the error is proven to be false so unless these come up consistently, you can probably ignore them. The example used here is one such instance where the quest is obviously running yet the scene claims it isn't. [10/26/2014 - 02:10:18PM] error: (000C275C): cannot find variable named fPotemaFightVar. stack: [ (000C275C)].ObjectReference.SetAnimationVariableFloat() - "<native>" Line ? [ (00103491)].dunPotemasMS06BossFightDummy.OnLoad() - "dunPotemasMS06BossFightDummy.psc" Line 109Usually limited to scripts that handle animations. It indicates that the behavior files in control of what's being called don't have a variable that matches up with what the script thinks should be there. There are known instances where this is a false error and the script actually does exactly what it should be doing. [02/26/2014 - 09:29:52AM] error: (03002B74): Actor did not have a valid Animation Graph Manager. stack: [ (03002B74)].DLC1SeranaLevelingScript.SetSubGraphFloatVariable() - "<native>" Line ? [Active effect 1 on (03002B74)].DLC1_ReflectShieldSCRIPT.OnUpdate() - "DLC1_ReflectShieldSCRIPT.psc" Line 39Currently it's not entirely known why these can occur. Generally speaking there should be no possibility for a loaded 3D actor to NOT have a valid animation graph, yet this error suggests otherwise. [02/17/2014 - 11:40:26PM] error: (0701FA3F): has no 3d, and so cannot have its motion type changed. stack: [ (0701FA3F)].trapsoulgemcontroller.SetMotionType() - "<native>" Line ? [ (0701FA3F)].trapsoulgemcontroller.onBeginState() - "trapSoulGemController.psc" Line 37 [ (0701FA3F)].trapsoulgemcontroller.GotoState() - "Form.psc" Line ? [ (0701FA3E)].MagicTrap.testRefIsSoulGem() - "MagicTrap.psc" Line 261 [ (0701FA3E)].MagicTrap.CellAttachSetUp() - "MagicTrap.psc" Line 365 [ (0701FA3E)].MagicTrap.OnLoad() - "MagicTrap.psc" Line 206Errors related to 3D Havok states. These usually crop up with references that are no longer loaded in memory. It is believed to be a false error as returning to an object that generates one of these will show it to be in the correct state. Confirmed to be a false error when it occurs in an OnLoad() block because those only get run after the 3D data is loaded. [12/05/2013 - 08:53:35PM] error: Failed to setup moving reference because it has no parent cell or no 3D stack: [ (0501EAB5)].DLC2DBBookLevelLightTranslationSCRIPT.TranslateTo() - "<native>" Line ? [ (0501EAB5)].DLC2DBBookLevelLightTranslationSCRIPT.TranslateToRef() - "ObjectReference.psc" Line 583 [ (0501EAB5)].DLC2DBBookLevelLightTranslationSCRIPT.DoLightMovement() - "DLC2DBBookLevelLightTranslationSCRIPT.psc" Line 72 [ (0501EAB5)].DLC2DBBookLevelLightTranslationSCRIPT.HandleTransitionEnd() - "DLC2DBBookLevelLightTranslationSCRIPT.psc" Line 147 [ (0501EAB5)].DLC2DBBookLevelLightTranslationSCRIPT.OnTranslationAlmostComplete() - "DLC2DBBookLevelLightTranslationSCRIPT.psc" Line 92Possibly related to the above. Seems to get thrown when a 3D object is pushed out of the loaded range of cells before the script finishes, but this hasn't been confirmed. [11/23/2013 - 11:41:23PM] error: Object reference has no 3D stack: [ (03013835)].Sound.Play() - "<native>" Line ? [ (FF000908)].dunWEFXBatActivator.OnActivate() - "dunWEFXBatActivator.psc" Line 12Another error that should only be generated when an object is not loaded. It has been confirmed to occur even on objects that ARE loaded though so it's not entirely obvious what the script is expecting. [09/11/2013 - 09:25:13PM] error: (FF0008E5): Failed to send event HeadBleed04 for unspecified reasons. stack: [ (FF0008E5)].MGRitual05DragonScript.PlaySubGraphAnimation() - "<native>" Line ? [Active effect 1 on (FF0008E5)].FXDragonBloodDamageScript.OnHit() - "FXDragonBloodDamageScript.psc" Line 343The ultimate in stupid error messages. It obviously cannot be solved without knowing what the unspecified reasons are. Other Errors You May See [12/17/2014 - 11:59:16AM] [_DS_HB_MCM <_DS_HunterbornMCM (C0001D89)>] ERROR: Cannot add option $_DS_HB_Skeevers outside of OnPageReset()Errors that look like this are almost always going to be specific to mods with MCM options. It's an error message generated by the SkyUI libraries when the mod is doing something wrong with them. It is *NOT* a fault in SkyUI itself. These errors need to be reported to the author of the mod rather than to the SkyUI team. [02/24/2015 - 10:29:56PM] VM is freezing... [02/24/2015 - 10:29:56PM] VM is frozen [02/24/2015 - 10:29:57PM] Saving game... [02/24/2015 - 10:29:58PM] VM is thawing...A totally routine set of messages. Ignore them. They merely tell you the Papyrus VM has halted to allow you to save (or load) the game. They don't mean the game engine froze up and stopped responding as SOME sites have erroneously reported. [12/17/2014 - 12:14:05PM] Warning: Script profiling is disabled - profiling request ignored stack: <unknown self>.Debug.StartScriptProfiling() - "<native>" Line ? [ (CB001844)].GetShelterTBScript.OnTriggerEnter() - "GetShelterTBScript.psc" Line 37Pretty much exactly what it says. You hit some kind of trigger that wants to run profiling but Papyrus profiling is disabled. This is generally not something you'll find while playing as it's only supposed to be something mod authors use for diagnostics.
Hello afkmod's people ! I'm usually asking questions in places with larger audiences, but considering the subject and the amount of people who "know everything about everything, but actually not that much" on large audience forum, I thought I'd better ask here I'm assuming the knowledge/head ratio here is propably the highest I can find on a Skyrim's modding forum. The only decent topic I could find about papyrus log was an old thread by Giskard on steam forums, and yet, he's mostly explaining that modders are too bad to prevent log error in their mods, than providing actual informations about how to read, analyze and exploit papyrus logs. If someone have some good links to learn about it, I'd be glad if he could post it here If not, here are some specific point I'd like explained, if anyone can : Some scripts / functions are called to [None] objects... I checked the sources of various said mods that dumped this error, recompiled them to be sure, checked the implementation of the mod in both TES5Edit and the CK... nothing seems wrong. I tried to make new, clean games, no errors for thoses... So, how is it possible that at one point, the script is trying to be applied to a non-valid object ? "Because the object himself have been deleted in your savegame". Ye, thought so, but what if the said script actualy extends ActiveMagicEffect ? Those are supposed to be dispelled on the actor's death if I'm not mistaken ? Still, I can admit this make for a decent explaination of this one... The other I'm worried about, even more odd : "Property XXXX on script XXXXX attached to XXXXXX (formID) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property" What the hell could this means ? I just don't understand how a property could "disappear" from a script, so I'm assuming it's actually the VMAD that's failing at some point to link the script's property to an in-game reference... yet, as I said, I checked in the CK : The property is properly linked to its reference... To say it before anyone ask, yes, I tried various tool supposed to "fix" scripts instance in savegame. I would even say that the second error is most likely due to one of those tools... But they're only working on savegames... should I conclude that the property-reference link is actually stored in the savegame, and thus not re-read by the game in the plugins everytime you run the game ? I hope someone can enlight me a little bit... Cheers, Kesta Edit : Well, it look like I'm not so good at browsing forums... thx zilav
I added a small portion of this error to the tracker (issue #14446), but could use some advice as to whether there are multiple things that need to be addressed and added to the tracker. The actual log was over 150,000 lines long (10 MB in size) in less than 10 minutes after completing the quest, so I condensed it down significantly (see link at top of post), since it repeats the same error(s) over and over. It appears to be similar to a bug that was fixed with USKP 2.0.0 ( #13631) I should also note that The Augur did not speak his line of dialogue ("You are worthy") after finishing "the test" either. By the way, in my current game, I reloaded a save prior to starting this quest, because I don't really want this script going endlessly for the rest of the game, but I still have several save files available if you guys would need them when attempting to fix this issue at a later date. Edit: This issue was fixed with USKP 2.0.1. The fix for this bug was evidently non-retroactive (according to the change log). MGRitual04QuestScript.zip