LeBurns Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 So I get the message that Derkeethus is missing and may be in Darkwater Pass. So I go there, clear out everything, but he's not in the cell where he's suppose to be. In fact he's no where. I set my journal so that his quest is the only one active and checked to see where the quest pointer is located, and nothing. No quest pointer at all when his quest is the only one active. This has never happened to me before. So I have the quest. The quest being active shows no quest pointer. He's not in the cave (I've searched over and over again). I am using the Unofficial Patch. I'm on PC so at this point I'm ready to just use the console to fix this if I have to. Anyone with any clues as to how to make him appear, set him free? Or, what console commands will just get the quest out of my journal? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handy6373 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Did you try leaving the cave and re enter? Not sure if you spawn him with console will work or not but you could try reset quest in console but I would try that outside of the cave. Base id for Derkeethus is 0001403E, I didn't find any quest id's in my quick search so maybe spawn him and see what happens?? LeBurns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrus Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 USEP mentions this : "A workaround for this problem is to go outside the cave, open the console and type prid 0001B08D and moveto player and then talk to him, this will finish the quest." Try those two console commands - It should move Derkeethus to the player. LeBurns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBurns Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 13 hours ago, Handy6373 said: Did you try leaving the cave and re enter? Not sure if you spawn him with console will work or not but you could try reset quest in console but I would try that outside of the cave. Base id for Derkeethus is 0001403E, I didn't find any quest id's in my quick search so maybe spawn him and see what happens?? Yeah I tried going in and out, traveling, going back, etc. All the Falmer are still dead, but he's nowhere and still no quest marker to find him. 9 hours ago, Fenrus said: USEP mentions this : "A workaround for this problem is to go outside the cave, open the console and type prid 0001B08D and moveto player and then talk to him, this will finish the quest." Try those two console commands - It should move Derkeethus to the player. Thanks I'll have to give that a try. I just hate having quests hanging in my journal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBurns Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Fenrus said: USEP mentions this : "A workaround for this problem is to go outside the cave, open the console and type prid 0001B08D and moveto player and then talk to him, this will finish the quest." Try those two console commands - It should move Derkeethus to the player. Exactly how do you type that in the console? Is it one line or two? >prid 0001B08D >moveto player - or - >prid 0001B08D and moveto player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 It's the first one, 2 lines. LeBurns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBurns Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 Well, I did it, but he never showed up. It's like he's just not in the game anymore. Note, since I started this game I've seen a lot of corpses vanish, like they fall through the ground and disappear. The only thing I've added to the game from prior games is all the AFK village update mods. I'm wondering now if he didn't just 'slip through the cracks' and vanish like those corpses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Next time you're in the game, do the prid command again. Then follow it with "GetDead" and see what you get back. The response should be a 0 or a 1. 0 if he's alive, 1 if he's dead. If he's alive, try "GetDisabled" and see if that returns a 0 or a 1. 1 would mean he's been disabled by something, 0 would mean he's enabled. You've got a real mystery on your hands if he's alive and still enabled, because the PRID and MOVETO commands didn't return a failure and should have brought him directly to you. The alternative in that case would be to instead open the console and use "Player.Moveto 0001B08D" which should move you to him instead. At least you'll know where the game thinks he is at the moment. Fenrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBurns Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 Well here you go. When I use moveto player it takes me to his cell in the cave, but he's not there. Again making me think that he fell through the floor or something. NOTE, I did add the AFK mod for Darkwater Crossing before running this character. Could something in that mod changed his location and messed the quest up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigurð Stormhand Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 He's disabled. Check the console in the image you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Then there's one more thing that needs to be done: SQV DarkwaterCrossingDerkeethusRescueQuest The output of that command should tell us what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adella Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 I do not speak PC, so if this sounds stupidly ignorant please excuse and move on…However, you keep talking about Derkeethus and Darkwater Crossing, but the screenie is a dead bear on the bridge to the Seven Thousand Steps which is a total mismatch of npc and location! Confused! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Basically his screenshot is a strong indication that something went very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handy6373 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, Adella said: I do not speak PC, so if this sounds stupidly ignorant please excuse and move on…However, you keep talking about Derkeethus and Darkwater Crossing, but the screenie is a dead bear on the bridge to the Seven Thousand Steps which is a total mismatch of npc and location! Confused! That command could be done anywhere, possible that's where LeBurns saved and entered the game to see if those commands worked. But even after 4 years on pc I still don't speak/understand the language well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adella Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Ah…..Ok I do have one possibly relevant suggestion: Shout “Aura Whisper” it will show if Derkeethus has slipped under the floor or been trapped inside a wall. Adella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBurns Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, Adella said: Ah…..Ok I do have one possibly relevant suggestion: Shout “Aura Whisper” it will show if Derkeethus has slipped under the floor or been trapped inside a wall. Adella Yeah I was fast traveling around trying to see if that would fix the problem if the cell reset. I'll go try that SQV DarkwaterCrossingDerkeethusRescueQuest command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBurns Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 Okay, back at Darkwater Crossing (Just for you Adella ) . Note again I'm using the AFK Darkwater Crossing mod, which adds some houses and such. Here is the screen shot. I ... have no idea what it's saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBurns Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 What's really weird is when I use the command Player.Moveto it takes me to this cell where he's supposed to be, but he isn't here. I did use the floating camera command to look under the stones and such. But he's not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Getdisable came back as 1, so it looks like he's been disabled by something for some reason. Try typing the prid command again then hit enter. Then type enable, and hit enter. See if that brings him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 In the game data he's set to disabled but DarkwaterCrossingDerkeethusRescueQuest should be immediately enabling him when you start the game and moving him to the cell. Obviously the part that moves him to the cell worked. He just never enabled and that's not really clear why. And no, it has nothing to do with my village mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBurns Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 I thought about disabling and then enabling, but since he's already in a middle of a quest would that screw things up? I only mentioned the mod cause I thought maybe the mod is trying to put him in one of the new houses or something while at the same time he's supposed to be in the cage. Course I don't know how these things really work but I hadn't had this bug before and those village mods are the only thing I've added in ages. I'll try disable and enable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBurns Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 Well okay. Enable and then player.moveto, and there he was. Got him out of the cave and quest completed. Fenrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adella Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Well done! Ask him where he’s been….Lazy lizard A. LeBurns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRAT Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Most useless response here. I had this problem years ago when running vanilla game on XB1 prior to installing any mods at all including Unofficial Patch. So long ago i cannot remember the precise details and nothing positive to contribute which is why i didn't respond before. I seem to remember that i managed to clear the quest eventually but only after tremendous difficulty and frustrations so although nothing i have helps anyone in any way it does seem that its not a unique problem. Sah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sah Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 On 6/12/2021 at 10:28 PM, LeBurns said: So I get the message that Derkeethus is missing and may be in Darkwater Pass. So I go there, clear out everything, but he's not in the cell where he's suppose to be. In fact he's no where. I set my journal so that his quest is the only one active and checked to see where the quest pointer is located, and nothing. No quest pointer at all when his quest is the only one active. This has never happened to me before. So I have the quest. The quest being active shows no quest pointer. He's not in the cave (I've searched over and over again). I am using the Unofficial Patch. I'm on PC so at this point I'm ready to just use the console to fix this if I have to. Anyone with any clues as to how to make him appear, set him free? Or, what console commands will just get the quest out of my journal? Thanks. this quest has always been buggy, I had the same experience ... I simply avoid doing it because no one ever made a patch to fix it but it would be nice if it was fixed ... would love to know how the quest plays out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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