NPC Persuade/Intimidate List

[garthand]

Here are the lists of Persuadable NPCs according to the UESP wiki, and a few of my own entries. The first number is what speech level you should need to persuade them without the persuade perk, the second is what level with it. Many of these NPCs also have intimidate and bribe options. I will denote them as I find them, with for bribe and for intimate. [!] Denotes NPCs which are confirmed to have bugged dialogue.

 

Very Easy (10) [Can't be failed]

 

Persuading a shakedown bandit to leave you alone for 50 gold.

During The Forsworn Conspiracy, getting Margret to reveal information.

Getting a free sample from the attendant at Redwater Den.DG

Persuading the Riften gate guard to let you through [!]

Persuading the Whiterun gate guard to let you through

 

Easy (25/18)

 

The Black Star, convincing Nelacar that a priestess of Azura sent you.

Caught Red Handed, getting the Mark of Dibella from Hofgrir Horse-Crusher.

Compelling Tribute, getting gold from Anuriel.

Compelling Tribute, getting gold from Raerek.

A Cornered Rat, convincing Esbern to open his door.

Diplomatic Immunity, Getting the Thalmor guard to leave his post.

The Forsworn Conspiracy, getting information on Weylin from Mulush gro-Shugurz.

The Forsworn Conspiracy, getting Weylin's Key from Garvey.

Good Intentions, getting the Augur of Dunlain's location from Mirabelle Ervine.

The Mind of Madness, getting the key to the Pelagius Wing from Erdi.

No One Escapes Cidhna Mine, getting skooma from Duach.

Promises to Keep, getting Sibbi's key.

The Raid, getting Wujeeta to reveal where she gets skooma.

Season Unending, convincing Ulfric to join the peace talks.

The Taste of Death, getting Brother Verulus to follow you.

Tending the Flames, the first persuasion option when rewriting King Olaf's Verse.

 

Average (50/35)

 

Buy Dwarven artifact, getting Calcelmo to pay you more.

Caught Red Handed, convincing Indaryn to give you the Mark of Dibella.

Caught Red Handed, convincing Bolli to give you the Mark of Dibella.

Diplomatic Immunity, convincing Elisif the Fair to create a distraction.

Diplomatic Immunity, convincing Igmund to create a distraction.

Diplomatic Immunity, convincing Ondolemar to create a distraction.

Diplomatic Immunity, convincing Siddgeir to create a distraction.

Diplomatic Immunity, convincing Vittoria Vici to create a distraction.

The Fallen, convincing the Jarl of Whiterun to let you use Dragonsreach to capture a dragon.

A False Front, getting the innkeeper to tell you where the Imperial Courier is.

A False Front, getting the innkeeper to tell you where the Stormcloak Courier is.

The Forsworn Conspiracy, getting the key to Margret's room from Kleppr or Frabbi.

The Forsworn Conspiracy, getting Borkul the Beast to let you in to see Madanach.

The Forsworn Conspiracy, getting Rhiada to let you in to see Thonar Silver-Blood.

Hitting the Books, convincing The Caller to let you take the books and leave.

The House of Horrors, convincing Logrolf that Boethiah sent you.

The Lover's Requital, getting Lynly to admit her true identity. [!]

A Night To Remember, getting Senna to reveal your next destination without cleaning the temple.

A Night To Remember, getting Ysolda to reveal your next destination without getting her ring back.

Sanuarach Mine, convincing Atar to leave Karthwasten.

Sanuarach Mine, convincing Ainethach to sell the mine.

Season Unending, convincing General Tullius to join the peace talks.

Tending the Flames, the second persuasion option when rewriting King Olaf's Verse.

Hunting the Monster, convincing a friend to help you find a vampire.

Lost to the Ages, convincing Katria you are strong enough to handle Arkngthamz.

A New Order, convincing Sorine Jurard to join Dawnguard without getting her a gyro.

Prophet, getting a carriage driver or innkeeper to give you information on the priest for free.

Convincing Borgakh the Steel Heart to join you as a follower.

Convincing Drahff and Hewnon to leave you alone in the entrance of the Ratway [with CRF] [!]

Convincing a random thief to leave you alone.

During a random encounter with a would-be mage, convincing him to give you his staff.

During a random encounter with a mercenary, convincing them to give you the location they were heading to.

 

Hard (75/53)

 

During A Cornered Rat, getting Dirge to tell you the location of Esbern.

During A Cornered Rat, getting Vekel the Man to tell you the location of Esbern.

During A Cornered Rat, getting Brynjolf to tell you the location of Esbern.

During A Night To Remember, convincing Ennis to reveal your next destination without finding his goat.

During Dampened Spirits, getting Sabjorn to pay you half before the job.

During Hard Answers, tricking Calcelmo into giving you the key to the museum.

During Loud and Clear, getting the key from Aringoth.

During Missing In Action, getting information on Thorald Gray-Mane's location from Idolaf Battle-Born.

During Onmund's Request, convincing Enthir to give you the amulet for free.

During Pieces of the Past, getting the hilt from Jorgen.

During The Pursuit, convincing Vald to leave his guard post.

During Season Unending, convincing your favored side to accept a minor hold.

During Scoundrel's Folly, getting information from Gulum-Ei.

During Summerset Shadows, getting Niranye to tell the truth.

Convincing a guard to ignore minor crimes.

Convincing Markarth guards to leave you alone, but even then you will still be taken to Cidhna Mine; it is one of the few speech checks in the game that always fails regardless of skill.

During a random encounter with an adventurer who calls you a milk drinker, backing away from the fight.

 

Very Hard (100/70)

 

Convincing Faralda to let you join the College of Winterhold without taking a test.

 

Unknown

Reddguard bandit at Valtheim Towers

[MadCat221]

I think the random thief one is bugged as well, on account of thieves not typically being steadfast foes.  When faced with a mark that's too tough to rough up, a thief would rather run away and live.

 

There's also the "toll-taker" bandit at Valtheim Towers.  She has a rather high confidence score too. (Or I think it's always a woman... is it always a redguard woman for everyone else too?)

[BlackPete]

<  ... >  is it always a redguard woman for everyone else too?)

The bandit (toll-taker) at Valtheim Towers is always a Redguard woman for me too. I'm thinking that particular bandit must use a specific NPC template.

 

Edit: The CK says that the actor template is "LCharBanditMeleeEvenTonedF".

[Arthmoor]

So far as I've ever seen, yes, she's a Redguard.

[Leonardo]

I think the random thief one is bugged as well, on account of thieves not typically being steadfast foes.  When faced with a mark that's too tough to rough up, a thief would rather run away and live.

 

There's also the "toll-taker" bandit at Valtheim Towers.  She has a rather high confidence score too. (Or I think it's always a woman... is it always a redguard woman for everyone else too?)

Especially the thief when doing the "A Blade In The Dark" quest if the player choose to follow Delphine from Riverwood to Kynesgrove.

 

Yes there is a Redguard woman there at Valtheim Towers.  I think there will be a Redguard woman when the cell is respawned.

[garthand]

Especially the thief when doing the "A Blade In The Dark" quest if the player choose to follow Delphine from Riverwood to Kynesgrove.

 

Yes there is a Redguard woman there at Valtheim Towers.  I think there will be a Redguard woman when the cell is respawned.

I've never chosen to follow Delphine in "A Blade in The Dark," where does this encounter occur, and is it the same as all random thief encounters?

[Leonardo]

It's downhill near to the river and you must cross the river by either a bridge or swim over to the other side unless you follow Delphine to Windhelm stable before you reach Kynesgrove.

 

Yes it's always the same thief and that one is just stupid, because he doesn't care what opposition he is facing and intimidating the thief always fail.

[MadCat221]

Another one for the list: Dawnguard's "Hide and Seek" quest, where Gunmar sends you to find a "Pilgrim/bard/advisor/whatever" who is a vampire getting his power trip hiding in plain site.  Confidence level is, you guessed it... 4/Foolhardy.  This one is probably an alias-generated FF-range reference, so it may need to be backtracked from the quest it's part of.

[BlackPete]

What about WERoad07 (a.k.a. Taunting Adventurer)? The intimidate option always fails on this one too, even at level 100 speech.

[Leonardo]

A Cornered Rat, convincing Esbern to open his door.

Diplomatic Immunity, Getting the Thalmor guard to leave his post.

Season Unending, convincing Ulfric to join the peace talks.

I don't consider these NPC's to be bugged or something, because they're all part of MQ and they behave as natural as we would do in RL.

 

In the Diplomatic Immunity quest you don't have to persuade a Thalmor guard just talk to another guest about getting a diversion a least it's what I did in my first playthrough 2011.

[BlackPete]

I know that Arthmoor is taking a look at these, so maybe the info (below) will be of help.  Bug #14884

 

I can confirm these:

 

WERJ02 (Thieves Guild Holdup) -- intimidate always fails

WERoad06 (Adventurer on the Way to Nearby Dungeon) -- intimidate always fails

WERoad07 (Taunting Adventurer) -- intimidate always fails

 

Other:

 

WE31 (College Application Denied) -- this one seems to work fine (I think); I've been able to successfully bribe and intimidate him to give me the staff; not positive about the persuade check though

[Arthmoor]

I've gone over the list and fixed the ones that were obviously broken. Missing properties being the most common problem, where the option succeeds but you get no credit for it.

 

Over all, it appears as though most of this stuff really works. So we'll see what happens.

[DayDreamer]

There were some that were checking against their own skill, instead of Target/Player. And I'd also reported some missing properties. Some of these were fixed previously.

 

And there was at least one (Sapphire) that never failed, because no check was in the conditions. You could persuade or intimidate or bribe. At least you got credit for persuade.

 

Are all the missing properties [NR]? Or are they loading properly?

[Arthmoor]

I didn't notice any that were incorrectly targeting self. I'm pretty sure we got all those. Can't hurt to look that over when 204 is out for beta this weekend.

 

Sapphire should be fixed in 204.

 

TopicInfo scripts should pick up the missing properties since their instances are usually destroyed upon being run, according to SMKViper.

[sialivi]

According to this mod, http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/61966/? , Brother Verulus persuasion check in a Taste of Death is bugged. I haven't confirmed it so I haven't created a ticket for it.

[Arthmoor]

Hmmm. I see someone is farming our tracker tickets. We just fixed that