Leonardo Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I'm just about to clean Hearthfire.esm in TES5Edit, but I don't remember the last time I clean most of those mods I've installed and I forgot how to do it in TES5Edit. There is one thing I do remember and that's I need to apply cleaning filter before the actual cleaning process begins which I did in TES5Edit, but now I'm not sure what to do next so that's why I ask here. I need to clean Hearthfire.esm plus fix my loadorder, gamesave, install mods/patches or uninstall Hearthfire incompatible mods, and make sure that there is no issues before Dragonborn is released the 5th of February. I also think that most people would appreciate if someone could post a mod cleaning tutorial for TES5Edit here or if it has the same procedure as TES4Edit then just ignore this. :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hana Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 I'm pretty sure it's exactly the same as TES4Edit cleaning... apply filter - remove ITM's, UDR's. It wouldn't hurt to have the tutorial here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted February 3, 2013 Author Share Posted February 3, 2013 Thanks Hana. :smile: I agree especially when there is a difference between these games. I've a vague memory about cleaning Update.esm every time it's updated and not only a new game patch is out, but also every DLC that are either released or updated. Is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hana Posted February 3, 2013 Share Posted February 3, 2013 The DLC's are never updated so just one cleaning will do, but yes, you are correct to clean Update.esm after each update. I do, of course, defer to the wisdom of lizards if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted February 3, 2013 Author Share Posted February 3, 2013 Thanks for the confirmation. Just what I need to know. :bow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 Just finish the apply cleaning filter in TES5Edit for Update.esm before the actual cleaning begins when I notice these warnings about unused data in Skyrim.esm for something I haven't seen before. <Warning: Unused data in: \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [58] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [11] GRUP World Children of CWTestHold "Avoidance Exterior" [WRLD:0001B44A] \ [2] GRUP Exterior Cell Block 0, 0 \ [0] GRUP Exterior Cell Sub-Block 0, 0 \ [18] TestCWHoldStart [CELL:0001B513] (in CWTestHold "Avoidance Exterior" [WRLD:0001B44A] at 0,0) \ [3] DATA - Flags> <Warning: Unused data in: \ [00] Skyrim.esm \ [58] GRUP Top "WRLD" \ [11] GRUP World Children of CWTestHold "Avoidance Exterior" [WRLD:0001B44A] \ [0] [CELL:0001B4C6] (in CWTestHold "Avoidance Exterior" [WRLD:0001B44A] at 0,0) \ [2] DATA - Flags> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Those are leftover debug messages. You can ignore them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted June 13, 2013 Author Share Posted June 13, 2013 I see. Good. I also check all 3 DLC, but only Dragonborn didn't have the debug messages. Why Dragonborn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Updates to the CK perhaps? Who knows. Their data formats are not particularly stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 I think you know more than you realise. because you mention about the latest *major* CK update here or here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 That doesn't exactly tell us what minor things might have changed in record stuff between when Skyrim.esm was created and when Dragonborn.esm was created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 Probably not. Although something was changed that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted June 15, 2013 Author Share Posted June 15, 2013 Okay I continue to clean Update.esm, but when it was time for Hearthfires.esm to get cleaned I got this message. Undeleting: [REFR:0005F2E6] (places RockPileL01 [sTAT:000226BA] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BYOHHouse1Exterior02 [CELL:00009BD6] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -3,-17))Undeleting: [REFR:0005DAD1] (places RockCliff07PineForest02 [sTAT:0005B7DF] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BYOHHouse1Exterior02 [CELL:00009BD6] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -3,-17))Undeleting: [REFR:0005F2E5] (places RockL03 [sTAT:00018BA5] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BYOHHouse1Exterior02 [CELL:00009BD6] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -3,-17))Undeleting: [REFR:0005F2E4] (places RockL02 [sTAT:0001819A] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BYOHHouse1Exterior02 [CELL:00009BD6] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -3,-17))Undeleting: [REFR:000E7F99] (places FrozenMarshIceFloeChunkS02 [sTAT:000E7592] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:00009271] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -7,25))Undeleting: [REFR:000E7F9E] (places FrozenMarshIceFloeChunkS01 [sTAT:000E7591] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:00009271] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -7,25))Undeleting: [REFR:000E8D9C] (places SnowDriftM02 [sTAT:00060220] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BYOHHouse3Exterior02 [CELL:000090A5] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 7,9))Undeleting: [REFR:000E8D9D] (places FXAmbSnowBlowingDriftTip [MSTT:000197CA] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BYOHHouse3Exterior02 [CELL:000090A5] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 7,9))Undeleting: [REFR:0005F0B1] (places SMdATraCon01 [sTAT:0005D7B4] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SolitudeProudspireManor "Proudspire Manor" [CELL:00016A06])Undeleting: [REFR:0010C205] (places CraftingCookingPotSm "Cooking Pot" [FURN:001010B3] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SolitudeProudspireManor "Proudspire Manor" [CELL:00016A06])Undeleting: [REFR:000DF72E] (places CandleHornFloor01 [sTAT:0001F249] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of WindhelmHjerim "Hjerim" [CELL:00016778])[undeleting and Disabling References done] Processed Records: 17626, Undeleted Records: 11, Elapsed Time: 00:01<Warning: Plugin contains 5 deleted NavMeshes which can not be undeleted> I didn't want to remove the other lines above the last two lines. Are the last two lines normal or is it something else to be careful about? Cleaning Dragonborn.esm also gave me a similar message. Undeleting: [REFR:00032AEE] (places NorRmSmWallSide01 [sTAT:00013F86] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of QASmoke "Editor Smoke Test Cell" [CELL:00032AE7])Undeleting: [REFR:00032AEB] (places NorRmSmCorIn01 [sTAT:00013F7C] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of QASmoke "Editor Smoke Test Cell" [CELL:00032AE7])Undeleting: [REFR:000C2CF1] (places DefaultTorch01 [LIGH:00088242] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of QASmoke "Editor Smoke Test Cell" [CELL:00032AE7])Undeleting: [REFR:000C2CF2] (places DefaultTorch01 [LIGH:00088242] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of QASmoke "Editor Smoke Test Cell" [CELL:00032AE7])Undeleting: [REFR:000C2CF3] (places DefaultTorch01 [LIGH:00088242] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of QASmoke "Editor Smoke Test Cell" [CELL:00032AE7])Undeleting: [REFR:000C2CF4] (places DefaultTorch01 [LIGH:00088242] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of QASmoke "Editor Smoke Test Cell" [CELL:00032AE7])Undeleting: [REFR:000C2CF5] (places DefaultTorch01 [LIGH:00088242] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of QASmoke "Editor Smoke Test Cell" [CELL:00032AE7])Undeleting: [REFR:000C2CF6] (places DefaultTorch01 [LIGH:00088242] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of QASmoke "Editor Smoke Test Cell" [CELL:00032AE7])[undeleting and Disabling References done] Processed Records: 214330, Undeleted Records: 8, Elapsed Time: 00:05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Undeleting is fine, you want it to do that. It will help reduce CTDs from mods which might have later edited those same things. The deleted navmeshes are another story. Nothing can be done about those right now so you'll need to keep that in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted June 15, 2013 Author Share Posted June 15, 2013 Thanks for clarification. All I did was to remove ITM, UDR and as long I do that it should be safe to do so unless the author stated otherwise. Correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted June 15, 2013 Author Share Posted June 15, 2013 I went on to install the rest of the mods I wanted to use, but when I ran BOSS three mods was found that needs cleaning and one of them was TK's Freedom of Speech. Now I don't know if that's intentional or not, but it had 17 ITM, 0 UDR. So I guess that it would be safe to clean it or is it unsafe to do further cleaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 All I did was to remove ITM, UDR and as long I do that it should be safe to do so unless the author stated otherwise. Correct? Correct, that's all you need to do. Now I don't know if that's intentional or not, but it had 17 ITM, 0 UDR. So I guess that it would be safe to clean it or is it unsafe to do further cleaning. Yes, it's safe to clean. Chances are you're using a newer version of TES5Edit than he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted June 16, 2013 Author Share Posted June 16, 2013 Correct, that's all you need to do. Yes, it's safe to clean. Chances are you're using a newer version of TES5Edit than he was. Thanks. Just what I needed to know. I'm using the latest TES5Edit 3.0.29 a least what I notice when I downloaded it from Nexus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmoor Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Actually they're up to 3.0.30 now which is going to pick up even more ITMs. Might want to upgrade before you get too far along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted June 16, 2013 Author Share Posted June 16, 2013 Ah thanks for the heads up. I sure will update TES5Edit asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted June 16, 2013 Author Share Posted June 16, 2013 Just updated TES5Edit and ran BOSS again, but TK's Freedom of Speech are still detected as dirty by BOSS and not by TES5Edit 3.0.30. Why is that different between these two tools for the same mod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Actually they're up to 3.0.30 now which is going to pick up even more ITMs. Might want to upgrade before you get too far along I'm using TES5Edit 3.0.31 Experimental and today I ran BOSS then TES5Edit to clean the normal mods (Update.esm, HearthFires.esm, Dragonborn.esm), but after I cleaned HearthFires.esm I notice something odd because BOSS reporting 184 ITM and only 180 ITM was removed in TES5Edit. Why is that? Have TES5Edit been improved and be able to skip 4 ITM when cleaning HearthFires.esm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilav Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Record definitions are being updated with each new version, it might affect ITM counters in both ways. Leonardo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 That's great. Well done zilav! :cookies: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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