TESV DLC: Hearthfire

[Thomas Kaira]

"Hey there, Chef Skull!"*skeleton stares at you blankly*"So, do you get out a lot?"*skeleton stares at you blankly*"Do you cook any good?"*skeleton stares at you blankly*"So... would you like to work for me?"*skeleton slowly nods*

[Thomas Kaira]

Hearthfire is now available on Steam.Precisely after the Xbox 360 exclusivity ended, too. At least Bethesda did that right (even if the PS3 users are still hung out to dry).Arthmoor: If you need assistance on the inevitable Unofficial Hearthfire Patch, let me know if you would like an extra set of hands.

[Arthmoor]

So did this come with a game patch along side it?

[Hana]

Apparently not, but I sure hope they fixed the naked children.

[Arthmoor]

For fuck sake Bethesda... deleted navmeshes? Really? God dammit.

[Hana]

Looks like you found the issue with the naked children too. But, if 1.7 was supposed to add this new armor record, why is it even an issue?

[Arthmoor]

Well the BOD2 subrecord only prevents modding stuff in the DLC that pertains to child armor. Problem is, some of that is vanilla and some is DLC. Which means other mods that touched it could royally screw things up.I don't know why the issue came up on the 360 though because logically it shouldn't have. No mods to get in the way of things.Either way, until we get a CK update, HF is off limits. Plus the various deleted navmeshes are a massive headache.

[AndalayBay]

Does Beth operate in a vacuum or what? I'm waiting for the day when they screw themselves over and are forced to deal with this shit.

[Arthmoor]

That day will come soon enough. If for some reason, dirty edit or otherwise, their next DLC touches a previously deleted record then the shit hits the fan.They operate in worse than a vacuum though. We told them about this sort of thing during the CK beta. Several devs saw it. They know. They just don't seem to care.They could fix this a lot more cleanly than any of us ever could. Simply make the engine behave itself when a deleted record is edited. Should be easy enough to ONLY delete something once all files are loaded and the deleted record is actually the last one changed. Otherwise toss the delete flag out and nothing bad would happen.

[Hana]

Well the BOD2 subrecord only prevents modding stuff in the DLC that pertains to child armor. Problem is' date=' some of that is vanilla and some is DLC. Which means other mods that touched it could royally screw things up.[/quote']What I'm hearing is I should forget finishing my childrens wardrobe stuff.

[Arthmoor]

More precisely you should put it on hold and wait for the CK update.

[Thomas Kaira]

Fact: Hearthfire has THE worst family interactions of all time. Only in a Bethesda game can you go home, give your kid a razor-sharp dagger (because everyone knows it's a great idea to have kids play with sharp objects) and beat your spouse (and child) senseless. And not be punished for it at all.

I think you now understand why I think marriage and adoption in this game is a horrible idea and will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever go through with them.

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