[RELz/Beta] Dwip's Mods

[Dwip]

Quite a bit more coming, I might add...

[Thomas Kaira]

How the hell did I not notice that one before?! Even before it got uploaded to Nexus?!Looks like Frostcrag Reborn is going bye-bye on my install! :grinning:

[Dwip]

Onward, ho:

 

AFK_ICTempleCleanup

AFK_GardenPaths

 

Guess I forgot to get an image for AFK_ICTempleCleanup, and won't that be annoying to get.

 

Awesomeness: Nexus' ads like to steal focus, which makes the file uploader harder to use. Win.

[Arthmoor]

Nexus has ads?

 

Adblock Plus ftw. Must suck to be an IE user

[Dwip]

Man, I've got to start releasing things one at a time. this took forever.

 

Most of the time I don't even notice ads anymore.

[Hana]

Well, is it spring cleaning month or what? lol

[Dwip]

Got tired of the cycle of "I should release these!" "But I'm too busy!" "I should release these!" "But I'm tired today!" "I should release these!" "But I'm lazy!"

[Dwip]

Aaaaaaaaaand the first guy comes along complaining about missing furniture in Frostcrag, as I knew they would.

 

Occurs to me that the solution I used for that might not be the best one. Perhaps what I should have done was more along the lines of:

 

- In AFK_Frostcrag, edit each piece of furniture slightly so that it will show up as having been edited in TES4Edit.

- In TES4Edit, change each piece of furniture to point at a different model so that I can edit the texture on same.

- Change all the texture options to work with that arrangement.

 

Then again, I'm moving some of the furniture around, so perhaps I'm not really saving anything, exactly. Who knows.

 

[edit] Too, I may have dicked around with nif settings on a few of those models, too. Could be a complication. Also, assuming this method works, it would be the easy way to get it done for AFK_Weye, too, if I wanted to go that route.

[Dwip]

Sort of a note to myself, here:

AnvilDailyWorshipEveningUseAltar1 (Tiber Septim) - No usersAnvilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltar1 (Tiber Septim) - No usersAnvilDailyWorshipEveningUseAltar2 (Stendarr) - Didier AumilieAnvilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltar2 (Stendarr) - HasathilAnvilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltar3 (Dibella) - No usersAnvilPriestWorship 16x4 - TrevaiaAnvilPriestWorship 8x4 - TrevaiaBravilDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarAkatosh - Olava the FairBravilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarAkatosh - Olava the FairBravilDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarArkay - No usersBravilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarArkay - No usersBravilDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarDibella - Varon VamoriBravilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarDibella - No usersBravilDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarMara - MarzBravilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarMara - MarzBravilDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarStendarr - No usersBravilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarStendarr - No usersBravilDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarTiberSeptim - No usersBravilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarTiberSeptim - Hans Black-NailBravilDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarZenithar - No usersBravilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarZenithar - No usersBravilPriestWorship 10x2 - Chana MonaBravilPriestWorship 16x2 - Uravesa OthrelasBravilPriestWorship 18x2 - Chana MonaBravilPriestWorship 8x2 - MarzBrumaDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarAkatosh - No usersBrumaDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarAkatosh - No usersBrumaDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarArkay - No usersBrumaDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarArkay - No usersBrumaDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarDibella - No usersBrumaDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarDibella - LogvarrBrumaDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarMara - No usersBrumaDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarMara - CirrocBrumaDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarStendarr - Cirroc, Arentus FalviusBrumaDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarStendarr - No usersBrumaDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarTiberSeptim - Arentus FalviusBrumaDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarTiberSeptim - No usersBrumaDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarZenithar - CirrocBrumaDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarZenithar - No usersCheydinhalDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarAkatosh - No usersCheydinhalDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarAkatosh - Magub gra-OrumCheydinhalDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarArkay - No usersCheydinhalDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarArkay - No usersCheydinhalDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarDibella - ErrandilCheydinhalDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarDibella - ErrandilCheydinhalDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarMara - No usersCheydinhalDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarMara - No usersCheydinhalDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarStendarr - ShelleyCheydinhalDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarTiberSeptim - No usersCheydinhalDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarTiberSeptim - No usersCheydinhalDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarZenithar - No usersCheydinhalDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarZenithar - OhtimbarCheydinhalPriestWorship 16x2 - Hil the TallCheydinhalPriestWorship 18x2 - Gruiand GarranaCheydinhalPriestWorship 6x2 - Hil the TallCheydinhalPriestWorship 8x2 - Gruiana GarranaChorrolDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarAkatosh - No usersChorrolDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarAkatosh - No usersChorrolDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarDibella - No usersChorrolDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarDibella - Rena BruiantChorrolDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarMara - No usersChorrolDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarMara - Sabine LaulChorrolDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarStendarr - Otius LoranChorrolDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarStendarr - Otius LoranChorrolDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarTiberSeptim - No usersChorrolDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarTiberSeptim - Gureryne SelviloDarJeeDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarArkay - Dar JeeLeyawiinDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarArkay - ShamadaLeyawiinDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarStendarr - No usersLeyawiinDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarStendarr - Silana BlandiaLeyawiinDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarZenithar - No usersLeyawiinDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarZenithar - On-Staya SundewLeyawiinPrimateSundayWorship - Kantav CheynoslinLeyawiinPriestDailyWorship - Avrus AdasSkingradDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarDibella - No usersSkingradDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarDibella - Ambroise CanneSkingradDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarStendarr - No usersSkingradDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarStendarr - No usersSkingradDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarTiberSeptim - No usersSkingradDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarTiberSeptim - Falanu Hlaalu// Not Done?AnvilDailyWorshipDidierAumilie 16x4 // PewAnvilDailyWorshipDidierMaelona 16x4 //Unused, PewAnvilDailyWorshipGogan8x4 // Unused, PewAnvilDailyWorshipHasathil8x4 // Unused, PewAnvilDailyWorshipUlfgarOneEye8x4 // Unused, PewAnvilGoganDailyWorship8x4 // Unused, PewBravilDailyWorship8x4 - Uravesa OthrelasBravilDailyWorshipHansBlackNail8x2 - Hans Black-Nail // PewBravilDailyWorshipMarz16x4 - Marz // ???BravilDailyWorshipMarz8x4 - Marz // ???BravilDailyWorshipOlavaTheFair16x4 - Olava the Fair // WanderBravilDailyWorshipOlavaTheFair8x4 - Olava the Fair // WanderBravilDailyWorshipVaronVamori8x2 - Varon Vamori // WanderBrotherPinerChapelWorship5x5 - Brother Piner // May be legitimate?BrotherPinerChorrolChapelAltarMarker12x4 - UnusedBrumaDailyWorship8x2 - Logvaar, Lorkmir // WanderBrumaDailyWorshipArentus16x2 - Arentus Falvius // PewBrumaDailyWorshipCirroc10x2 - Cirroc // PewBrumaDailyWorshipCirroc16x2 - Cirroc // PewBrumaDailyWorshipCirroc8x2 - Cirroc // PewBrumaDailyWorshipLogvarr8x4 - Logvarr // PewBrumaNobleSundayWorship18x4 - Narina Carvain // Wander, may be legitimate?BrumaPriestDailyWorship8x2 - Isa Raman // Travel to editor location?BrumaSundayWorship8x2 - Yvara Channitte, Helvius Cecia // Wander?CarmanLitteChapelSunday 10x2 - Carman Litte // Wander? May be legitimate?CaulaAllectusVisitLeyawiinChapel - Caula Allectus // Wander?CheydinhalDailyWorshipBorbas16x4 - UnusedCheydinhalDailyWorshipErrandil16x4 - Errandil // PewCheydinhalDailyWorshipErrandil8x2 - Errandil // PewCheydinhalDailyWorshipMagubgraOrum8x2 - Magub gra-Orum // PewCheydinhalDailyWorshipOhtimbar 16x4 - Ohtimbar // Wander?CheydinhalDailyWorshipShelly8x4 - Shelley // PewChorrolChapel20x4 - UnusedChorrolChapel6x2 - UnusedChorrolChapel8x4 - UnusedChorrolChapelSundayWorship10x2 - Rena Bruiant, Viranus Donton // Wander?ChorrolDailyWorshipAlbericLitte6x2 - UnusedChorrolDailyWorshipArrianaValga20x4 - UnusedChorrolDailyWorshipChanel10x2Sunday - Chanel // PewChorrolDailyWorshipGureryneSelvilo8x2 - Gureryne Selvilo // PewChorrolDailyWorshipRenaBruiant8x4 - Rena Bruiant // PewChorrolDailyWorshipRimalusBruiant10x2Sunday - Rimalus Bruiant // PewChorrolDailyWorshipSabineLaul6x2 - Sabine Laul // PewCurtisVisitCheydinhalChapel - Curtis // Wander?ElisaPierraneVisitSkingradChapel - Elisa Pierrane // WanderElisaPierraneVisitSkingradChapelDay2 - Elisa Pierrane // WanderJauffreChapelWorship6x4 - Jauffre // WanderLeyawiinDailyWorship12x2 - No users // PewLeyawiinDailyWorshipDarJee14x4Sunday - Dar Jee // PewLeyawiinDailyWorshipOnStayaSundew8x2 - On-Staya Sundew, Silana Blandia?LeyawiinDailyWorshipShamada - ShamadaLeyawiinDailyWorshipSilanaBlandia - UnusedLeyawiinNobleDailyWorship - Alessia Caro // PewLeyawiinNobleSundayWorship - Marius Caro // PewMS11ErlineWorshipsMara - Erline Lirrian // Altar, Legitimate targetSkingradDailyWorshipFalanuHlaalu8x2 - Falanu Hlaalu // PewSkingradDailyWorshipGunder20x2 - Unused // PewSkingrad DanusArtellianSundayWorship - Danus Artellian // Pew

 

Which for the rest of you is to say that, having had one too many "But nobody uses the idles in AFK_PrayerIdles!" conversations, I decided to go pick through all the AI packs to see what was going on. Some funny things in there, and by funny I mean "Man that's a mess." Not only are plenty of NPCs not praying at altars, whole swathes of them don't even their proper chapel AI packs assigned to them - chapels ought to be way more populated than they are. Probably even worse than that, since I haven't actually bothered to look at the priest NPCs yet to see what's with them.

 

Something to look into whenever I figure out what the hell people's problem with AFK_Frostcrag furniture not appearing is.

[Arthmoor]

Well isn't that special. A whole bunch of AI packs never used? Goes well with the fact that in the process of incorporating more UOPS updates* I found that a good chunk of those packages were also assigned to target the wrong altars for their names.Lorkmir is dead btw, you remember this, yes? Part of the DB quest. Unless there's another Lorkmir I don't know about.Anyway, if there are that many named AI packs not in use, they may as well get assigned. Sort of makes one wonder just how many AI packs exist in total that are never used, but whos owners could be easily identified.* Yes, there's going to be another UOPS update.

[Dwip]

No, actually, I forgot that part. I wasn't being particularly picky, so much as throwing any given AI pack that might have something remotely to do with the subject in the list.I guess you could go through all the named AI packs and check, though that would take a while.Do you recall which packs were busted re: altars, btw?

[Arthmoor]

From the pending changelog:

 

* AI packs BravilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarZenthar, BravilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarMara, BravilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarAkatosh, BrumaDailyWorshipEveningUseAltarDibella, BrumaDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarZenthar, BravilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarArkay, BravilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarDibella and BravilDailyWorshipMorningUseAltarStendarr were using the wrong altars.

 

The named AI packs didn't take long to check only the unused ones. I didn't check the ones that you marked as in use because I figure there's not much point. A couple of the ones you marked as unused can't be assigned because there's no room in the schedules for them. Others were easy enough to squeeze in.

[Dwip]

That's kind of a lot.

[Arthmoor]

Indeed it is. Surprising, isn't it? The changelog for all the stuff this guy sent me is gargantuan compared to a lot of the other updates. So many little things, mostly harmless stuff, but still. I get that QA'ing a game of this magnitude is hard, but come on, there's a lot of super obvious problems here.The most significant being that ~7 points of fame and 1 point of infamy that should be applied never are and you know how the "100% completion" crowd feels about getting stiffed

[Dwip]

On a wholly other note, dear AFK_Frostcrag init script: Is there some reason you don't feel that you should work, at all? Like, ever? Because I keep looking at you, and it makes no sense to me. You seem to be a perfectly well-written script, you just don't want to work. Why is that?

[Dwip]

Note to self: How in the hell are Frostcrag Spire's permanent references all getting de-named and perhaps de-permanented? So bizzare.

[Dwip]

Yeah, this is me screaming "Help! Help!" while tearing out my hair and cursing the very name of Frostcrag.Also, dropped in CSE to get around the business with esp mastering. Pretty slick. That's like a real script window people use to write real code. Cool.

[Arthmoor]

Can't recall if I've seen the script work right or not, but you may have a problem here, one I had to forcefully work around with OC and Bruma stuff.You can't issue the disable/enable in the same frame. You have to issue the disable, move the stuff, then let the script come back around on another frame to re-enable. Otherwise it'll act like nothing is happening, which was a source of endless frustration with the Bruma troop encampments.Worse, because you're stopping the quest if MQ16 == 100, it will never be able to come back around anyway. You basically need something like this:

begin gamemode  if FrostCragLibraryParentREF.GetDisabled == 0 && init == 0    stuff.disable        set init to 1    return  endif  if init == 1    stuff.enable  endif    end

If the parents are disabled then you won't trigger the enable by accident and you can process your other code as needed. There being multiple parents this could possibly turn ugly just like it did for the stupid camps in Bruma. You can look at what I did in the Open Cities plugins if necessary.

[Dwip]

Yeah, ok. That makes sense to me. I knew it was something idiotic like that. Thanks, will check it out later.

[Dwip]

Yeah, it's all about the working correctly now. Yay.You know, it occurs to me that AFK_Frostcrag probably needs a few Bash tags, especially since I think it's competing with something or other over lighting levels. That or there's one of those light bugs I keep forgetting about. One of those.

[Dwip]

Or not.AFK_Frostcrag updated to version 1.1 to fix the issue with the init script, and to tinker a bit with the oblivion gate. If you have any prior version, you will want this one.

[Arthmoor]

Pretty much or not. Nothing needs tags there.That bug sounds nasty. Good thing I know how to console past this since I've probably long since borked all my saves with it

[AndalayBay]

Ok, AFK_Frostcrag virgin here! Ummm, I installed this but I have floating books and no shelves. Could you provide a bit more info on how this works? I see under known isses, something about the COBL alchemy sorter and buying furniture upgrades. I don't run COBL, so I went with the non-COBL option. Do I have to buy the furniture? From where? I've already purchased all the upgrades for the original Frostcrag. Also when you said to empty all the containers, I didn't think you meant bookshelves.

[Dwip]

Sounds like you've got AFK_Frostcrag 1.01 and not 1.1. If you go over to the Nexus page, about 5 comments down I've got what you should do to fix things. Short answer is, install 1.1, then go back to an earlier save.Of course, if you DO have 1.1, we've got problems.

[Arthmoor]

This is bad: http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2299/screenshot908o.jpgI had 1.01 before. Followed your uninstall procedure. Hopefully properly?Startquest AFKFrostcragUninstallWaited a minute or so (a confirmation message would be nice)Saved, exited the game.Put 1.1 in, activated it, loaded game.Went to the ground floor, and the above pic is the state of things. Which I don't think is quite right :PAlso tried the method listed in the comments, since Cat-Fu I know has been to the tower with 1.01 installed. That didn't work either. Same result.