DayDreamer Posted November 20 Posted November 20 It's been a long time (probably vanilla) since I'd run the check and clean navmesh xEdit scripts on this patch. This time, it was to try and figure out whether it affected falling deaths in Windhelm. Sadly, there are quite a few new'ish errors. Now inaccessible island triangles. Triangle paths not found. Border edges that don't match. The first thing most easily cleaned up will be "not found". Here's the v4.3.6c (2025-08-31) check output: Quote [00:00] Start: Applying script "Skyrim - Check edge links in navmeshes" *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0403870C] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:0400EE12] (in DLC2SolstheimWorld "Solstheim" [WRLD:04000800] at 5,14)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0010B088] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of MazeStart [CELL:00104220] (in LabyrinthianMazeWorld "Shalidor's Maze" [WRLD:00104217] at 0,-1)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0010B086] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of MazeStart [CELL:00104220] (in LabyrinthianMazeWorld "Shalidor's Maze" [WRLD:00104217] at 0,-1)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0010B084] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of MazeStart [CELL:00104220] (in LabyrinthianMazeWorld "Shalidor's Maze" [WRLD:00104217] at 0,-1)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0010B083] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of MazeStart [CELL:00104220] (in LabyrinthianMazeWorld "Shalidor's Maze" [WRLD:00104217] at 0,-1)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0010B082] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of MazeStart [CELL:00104220] (in LabyrinthianMazeWorld "Shalidor's Maze" [WRLD:00104217] at 0,-1)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0010B089] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of MazeStart [CELL:00104220] (in LabyrinthianMazeWorld "Shalidor's Maze" [WRLD:00104217] at 0,-1)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:00104E0D] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of MazeStart [CELL:00104220] (in LabyrinthianMazeWorld "Shalidor's Maze" [WRLD:00104217] at 0,-1)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:00104DFD] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of MazeStart [CELL:00104220] (in LabyrinthianMazeWorld "Shalidor's Maze" [WRLD:00104217] at 0,-1)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:00104DFC] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of MazeStart [CELL:00104220] (in LabyrinthianMazeWorld "Shalidor's Maze" [WRLD:00104217] at 0,-1)) *** Not Found Triangle 31 in [NAVM:00037F7B] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:00037EE3] (in SolitudeWorld "Solitude" [WRLD:00037EDF] at -14,24)) *** Not Found Triangle 44 in [NAVM:00037F7B] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:00037EE3] (in SolitudeWorld "Solitude" [WRLD:00037EDF] at -14,24)) *** Not Found Triangle 45 in [NAVM:00037F7B] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:00037EE3] (in SolitudeWorld "Solitude" [WRLD:00037EDF] at -14,24)) *** Not Found Triangle 46 in [NAVM:00037F7B] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:00037EE3] (in SolitudeWorld "Solitude" [WRLD:00037EDF] at -14,24)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:00103467] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:0002C993] (in DarkwaterWorld "Darkwater Pass" [WRLD:0002C965] at 25,-13)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000F9AA0] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:00020A40] (in BloatedMansGrottoWorld "Bloated Man's Grotto" [WRLD:0001FAE2] at 0,0)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0010CD85] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of KarthwastenExterior02 [CELL:0000705A] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -33,10)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000FA1E2] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of ThroatoftheWorldExterior [CELL:00009748] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 13,-13)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000FA1E3] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of ThroatoftheWorldExterior [CELL:00009748] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 13,-13)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000FA1E5] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of ThroatoftheWorldExterior [CELL:00009748] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 13,-13)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:00106361] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:00008F65] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 17,19)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:00103B5A] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of [CELL:00008F55] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at 2,20)) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0002BEF6] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of FortGreymoor02 "Fort Greymoor Prison" [CELL:000352C7]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0002BEFD] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of FortGreymoor02 "Fort Greymoor Prison" [CELL:000352C7]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000823CC] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of FalkreathLodsHouse "Lod's House" [CELL:00013A73]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0007B0AF] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of TolvaldsCave01 "Tolvald's Cave" [CELL:00015201]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000EEF28] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of KynesgroveSteamscorchGullyMine "Steamscorch Mine" [CELL:00013901]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000CEEBF] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of LostKnifeHideout02 "Lost Knife Hideout" [CELL:0001A337]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0002BEE8] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of Gloomreach02 "Gloomreach Hive" [CELL:00033779]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000C7A7E] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of WhiterunWarmaidens "Warmaiden's" [CELL:0001DB4E]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000FD0A0] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of Darkshade01 "Darkshade" [CELL:00015296]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000E0198] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of MorthalMoorsideInn "Moorside Inn" [CELL:000138CE]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:00081A96] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of TwilightSepulcher01 "Twilight Sepulcher" [CELL:0005B91B]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0009C976] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of Gloomreach01 "Gloomreach Cavern" [CELL:0001526D]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0009C974] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of Gloomreach01 "Gloomreach Cavern" [CELL:0001526D]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0007A829] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of Gloomreach01 "Gloomreach Cavern" [CELL:0001526D]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000AE335] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of RavenscarHollow01 "Ravenscar Hollow" [CELL:000A87C5]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000C8452] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of WhiterunOlavatheFeeblesHouse "Olava the Feeble's House" [CELL:000165AE]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000C6C1A] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of IlinaltasDeep01 "Ilinalta's Deep" [CELL:00015258]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:00089CCC] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of IlinaltasDeep01 "Ilinalta's Deep" [CELL:00015258]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000D59C1] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of PelagiaFarm "Pelagia Farm" [CELL:000161EE]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:00050B09] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BlackreachSewer01 "Silent City Catacombs" [CELL:0007FCDD]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0010FD8F] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BlackreachSewer01 "Silent City Catacombs" [CELL:0007FCDD]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0007EA21] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BlackreachZcell03 "War Quarters" [CELL:000152BB]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000C7CAA] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of IlinaltasDeep02 "Ilinalta's Deluge" [CELL:0003FC8F]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000C7CA9] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of IlinaltasDeep02 "Ilinalta's Deluge" [CELL:0003FC8F]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:00089D0D] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of IlinaltasDeep02 "Ilinalta's Deluge" [CELL:0003FC8F]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:00089D0C] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of IlinaltasDeep02 "Ilinalta's Deluge" [CELL:0003FC8F]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:00089D09] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of IlinaltasDeep02 "Ilinalta's Deluge" [CELL:0003FC8F]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000F43EF] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 0 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 2 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 6 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 11 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 12 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Island Triangle 13 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 14 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 15 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 16 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 8 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 9 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 11 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 20 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 21 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 26 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 28 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 52 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 53 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 54 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 55 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 56 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 57 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 104 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 113 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 114 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 124 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 128 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 129 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 132 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 134 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 149 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 158 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 169 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 170 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 176 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 182 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 183 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 184 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 185 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 195 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 197 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 201 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 215 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 220 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 234 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 242 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 262 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 274 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 276 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 289 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 291 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 296 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 323 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 334 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 342 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 443 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 444 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 445 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 446 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 447 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 448 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 449 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 450 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 451 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 452 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 453 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 454 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 455 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 456 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 457 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 458 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 459 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 460 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 461 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 462 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 463 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 464 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 465 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 466 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 467 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 468 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 469 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 470 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 471 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 472 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 473 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 474 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 475 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 476 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 477 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 478 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 479 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 480 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 481 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 482 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 483 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 484 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 485 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 486 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 487 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 488 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 489 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 490 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 491 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 492 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 493 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 494 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 495 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 496 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 497 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 498 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 499 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 500 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 501 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 502 in [NAVM:00025F49] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000D2989] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of HaltedStreamCamp01 "Halted Stream Camp" [CELL:00043FAB]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000B5D03] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of ShriekwindBastion01 "Shriekwind Bastion" [CELL:000A1A61]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000E5AB3] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of OldHroldanInn "Old Hroldan Inn" [CELL:000138BE]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000DDC2A] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of WinterholdRanmirshouse "Birna's Oddments" [CELL:00013813]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000DDC29] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of WinterholdRanmirshouse "Birna's Oddments" [CELL:00013813]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000FE682] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of KilkreathRuins02 "Kilkreath Ruins" [CELL:0004624F]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:000F7B9E] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of BrucasLeapRedoubt01 "Bruca's Leap Redoubt" [CELL:000152AD]) *** Island Triangle 0 in [NAVM:0002BEC0] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of LargashburShagrolsLonghouse "Largashbur Longhouse" [CELL:0001525C]) [03:39] Done: Applying script "Skyrim - Check edge links in navmeshes", Processed Records: 58330, Elapsed Time: 03:39
Arthmoor Posted November 21 Posted November 21 0010CD85 was intentionally disconnected due to being a vanilla island. 00103B5A was intentionally sunk due to being a disconnected island. 00106361 was a vanilla island that's been intentionally relocated. 000FA1E2, 000FA1E3, 000FA1E5: All intentionally sunk due to being vanilla islands. 000F9AA0 was intentionally relocated since it's a vanilla island. 0002C993 was intentionally relocated sicne it's a vanilla island. All 9 of the ones in Shalidor's Maze are intentionally relocated because they were vanilla islands. 0400EE12 is intentional because the original vanilla navmesh was a large island disconnected from the other navmesh in the cell. It was reduced and sunk on purpose. All this script has done is waste a bunch of time on intentional edits that were done because you can't merge navmesh islands into each other without it causing a deletion in the process. Check your findings next time. Not even going to bother checking all of the other island reports in this because they're all likely to be due to the same issue. There are TONS of these kinds of problems in vanilla and this is the only solution to those problems. As for Solitude and Sightless Pit, those will be addressed despite them not showing up in any other reliable reporting source.
DayDreamer Posted November 22 Author Posted November 22 (edited) On 11/20/2025 at 10:53 AM, DayDreamer said: It's been a long time AFAICT, the last time I'd saved the output was USKP 2.0.8a. On 11/21/2025 at 2:50 PM, Arthmoor said: not showing up in any other reliable reporting source Some folks have found it useful. If there was some other way, then I'd probably not have written this script, and it wouldn't be included with xEdit. Disappointed that you don't regularly check your patches. On 11/20/2025 at 10:53 AM, DayDreamer said: The first thing most easily cleaned up will be "not found". That is, look for the lines saying: *** Not Found Triangle On 11/21/2025 at 2:50 PM, Arthmoor said: As for Solitude and Sightless Pit Those are the only places with Not Found Triangle in this list. PATHFINDING says they have "opposite normals but are linked" and "Triangle 40 has a downfacing normal". You missed the EditorWarnings? On 11/21/2025 at 2:50 PM, Arthmoor said: Check your findings next time. This is the output of all disconnected triangles. It's very similar to the Check Navmesh command, but works globally. It is correct. Edited November 22 by DayDreamer
Arthmoor Posted November 23 Posted November 23 No. It's not correct because the script reported a bunch of "Island 0" complaints for intentionally edited navmeshes. I see no value in that. It's just noise to waste time on. I'm also not convinced the "Not Found" things are entirely accurate either given the absolute mess Sightless Pit was before I even touched it. And for the record, the CK is notorious for spitting out tons of spurious messages that mean nothing. So I've generally paid little attention to it because that too is often a waste of time. Sorry if you don't think my time is valuable.
DayDreamer Posted November 23 Author Posted November 23 1 hour ago, Arthmoor said: not convinced the "Not Found" things are entirely accurate We don't know what the flag is named internally, "Found" is the xEdit name. It is set by the CK. In this case, it is entirely accurate, but takes a bit of effort to find and fix. There's another isolated 1 triangle island 000ECFFC with vertices in the exact same locations as 00037F7B vertices. Probably an autogeneration error. Exactly what the report intends to find. https://afktrack.afkmods.com/index.php?a=issues&i=36052 1 hour ago, Arthmoor said: absolute mess Sightless Pit I'm fairly sure I've never even visited it in game. I'll check it tomorrow.... 1 hour ago, Arthmoor said: you don't think my time is valuable. Just leave it for the retired formerly $500 per hour consulting engineers like me. It takes all of us working together. We have different strengths.
Scythe Bearer Posted November 23 Posted November 23 19 hours ago, DayDreamer said: < snicker snack > Just leave it for the retired formerly $500 per hour consulting engineers like me. ... You and I both know that $500/hour is what we bill the client. The engineer only sees $100/hour; at most. The rest goes to lawyers (contract and IP and governmental compliance who file the required federal, state, county and municipal forms) and accountants (at least one CPA) and equipment (to duplicate client software configurations) and taxes (federal, state, county and municipal) and insurance (malpractice and performance bonds and business continuity) and retirement funding and keeping the lights on in the rented office space and at least one external auditor to make sure that none of the others are cheating you. I grew to hate it all. lmstearn 1
Sigurð Stormhand Posted November 24 Posted November 24 On 11/23/2025 at 3:22 AM, DayDreamer said: Just leave it for the retired formerly $500 per hour consulting engineers like me. It takes all of us working together. We have different strengths. Let's not be measuring former renumerations rates now. I don't want to even have to calculate what my students were being charged for the privilege of me teaching them, but I'm sure I only saw a tiny fraction of it.
DayDreamer Posted November 26 Author Posted November 26 On 11/23/2025 at 6:34 PM, Scythe Bearer said: I grew to hate it all. Me too. In my case, 30+ years as a one person shop, so saw more of the remuneration. But accountants and lawyers and taxes, oh my! (And tax audits and tax court.) Then lost nearly all my first retirement savings in the 1999 crash, and most of my second retirement savings in the Great Recession. Of course I've given all my published designs away for free, being part of the open source community (since before it was even named "Open Source"). My last job was global head of standards for Red Hat, overseeing funds for research and facilties at various universities and other non-profits, helping make the world a better place. On 11/24/2025 at 10:39 AM, Sigurð Stormhand said: Let's not be measuring former renumerations rates now. My point (perhaps insufficiently elegantly expressed) is that for many of us time is valuable, yet we all need to pull together as part of this community effort. My contribution is fixing pernicious bugs with the same attention to detail that made my publications and designs and code part of nearly every computer operating system. It pains me dearly that we are fixing bugs for a hundreds of million dollars product. My justification is helping the otherwise abandoned users. Arthmoor has kept this site going, while others are long gone. Also the projects need a maintainer. I'm thankful for that work and the team.
DayDreamer Posted 8 hours ago Author Posted 8 hours ago (edited) Very frustrating. Quote *** Not Found Triangle 0 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 2 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 6 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 11 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 12 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Island Triangle 13 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 14 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 15 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) *** Not Found Triangle 16 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) That USSEP added triangle 13 is the key. It is sideways, shares all 3 vertices with the rest of the navmesh, but has no connected sides. Probably a CK mistake, as it shouldn't be possible navmeshing by hand. Another problem is revealed by the "Skyrim - Clean edge links in navmeshes" script. A pair of edge links was lost: Quote Want match for triangle 5 in [NAVM:00025F5C] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) via old Edge 0-1 link 0 ^^^ Check triangle 0 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) Want match for triangle 0 in [NAVM:00028D15] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) via old Edge 1-2 link 1 ^^^ Check triangle 5 in [NAVM:00025F5C] (in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SightlessPit01 "Sightless Pit" [CELL:00035299]) Finally, xEdit reveals some USSEP changed edge links are going the wrong way; up and down have been reversed: So I've started over again (as can be seen by the screenshots) with minimally added triangles. Now it works. Still to do, the other "not found" triangles. USSEP adds a lot of triangles that aren't properly connected. A vanilla island [NAVM:000F43EF] may be the problem. Re-loading and re-checking the USSEP changes is very slow and tedious. Edited 8 hours ago by DayDreamer
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