Reading random books can start DLC1LD_Misc

[BlackPete]

Sometimes random books/notes, other than The Aetherium Wars, have a script attached (see below) to start DLC1LD_Misc. When read the "Investigate the ruins of Arkngthamz" entry is added to the quest journal. In my latest game this happened when reading the note named "Notice" (0008ACCC). The odd thing is that I read the note towards the start of my game (at level 10 or so) and it didn't trigger the quest, then read it again later (at level 47) and it did trigger the quest.

 SV console output for attached script:

DefaultOnReadSetQuestStageNotAlias:
   Script state = ""
   ::myQuest_var = DLC1LD (02005817)
   ::myStage_var = 10

The reason for bringing this up here is that I seem to remember it being reported in the past, but I haven't been able to locate the bug ticket in the tracker and have also tried searching for a report here on the forums. Maybe someone remembers whether there was a discussion somewhere about the issue or if there still is an open ticket.

Edited May 16, 2024 by BlackPete

[Arthmoor]

I don't know if you remember or not, but a similar issue came up 12 years ago with another static note. It had somehow attached itself to the Red Eagle quest even though it had no scripts attached in the CK or anything and wasn't referenced at all. It was never entered into the tracker (probably because we didn't have a reliable one yet) so there's no information about it but in the end we could never figure out how it happened.

I don't know if we'd have any better luck with this but it might be possible to get Bethesda's attention on this if you can provide the save game where this is happening. The UPP can't fix it but maybe they can if they can figure out how such a thing happened.

[BlackPete]

Vaguely, yes. That would explain why it seemed so familiar when I ran into this issue the other day. It's possible the same thing happened to me at some point with the Red Eagle quest, but this isn't the first time it has happened with Lost to the Ages.

If you think there's a chance Bethesda might look at it, providing a save isn't a problem. I would need to know how to get it to them, though. You must have something in mind.

Edited May 17, 2024 by BlackPete

[Arthmoor]

You can upload it here if you want (by PM even if you prefer) and I'll take care of passing it along as a test case. I don't know if it will be fixed or not but if it's never reported then it certainly won't.

[DayDreamer]

On 5/16/2024 at 11:29 PM, Arthmoor said:

if it's never reported then it certainly won't.

I gave up reporting some years ago, when the response was always "send us your DxDiag and msinfo32". They have support scripts to follow, and rarely even bother to read earlier responses in my reports, asking for the same things over again. They have no knowledge of the engine code, and no ability to escalate to actual engineering.

All my experienced crashing on loading or saving have been fixed by SSE Engine Fixes and/or Scrambled Bugs. I've individually reported such bugs. None have ever been fixed by Bethesda.

I'm sure thousands of us reported the flora respawn bug they introduced circa 2012. Scrambled Bugs found and fixed it a couple of years ago. All Bethesda needs to do is implement that open source code.

Heck, they should just read the reports here on this public tracker!

[Arthmoor]

The Microsoft acquisition changed things. They're paying more attention to feedback submitted via the website now. It might be worth re-reporting some of the old legends to see what comes of it.

I wouldn't expect a quick turnaround on something as genuinely weird as the book issue but as always, nothing gets done unless it gets reported.

[DayDreamer]

On 5/27/2024 at 1:21 PM, Arthmoor said:

It might be worth re-reporting some of the old legends to see what comes of it.

Have re-submitted one of them. They don't seem to have Performance/Stability as a category anymore, so this time tried as UI. Flora respawn and lip sync are forms of UI, Here's a screenshot of my most recent since the change from BethSoft to Bethesda,net,

Had tried several since M$ takeover. No joy.

Do we compile a list of bugs that cannot be patched for PS? Fixing them in the base data would help make USSEP easier.