Cannot save after reload of save after looting dragon in General Discussion Posted March 17 I'm not sure about the number of dragon scripts running. But there are a lot of scripts running. So it could be something else entirely, running in the background, that just happens to do something that makes the game un-savable at that point in time. 8 hours ago, lmstearn said: Adding stuff, removing stuff, see if the game does something weird, or worse. I've tried only taking a few specific objects from the dragon, one at a time. Tedious testing. Doesn't help. But again, not on the save after taking anything. Only after quitting to desktop and then loading that save. So there's an apparently good load, that won't save, even though I've done absolutely nothing! Also, this ony happens on a load after quit to desktop. It doesn't happen on a continue/load from Main Menu. Although eventually I'll quit the game, and then will experience the crash on my next save another day. (That's what actually happened, it took me days to work backward to the crashing point.) Moreover, I'd never load from System Menu, because I'd read long ago that was bad. Skyrim doesn't clean itself up entirely. Now we know it doesn't clean itself entirely at the Main Menu either. Oh how I wish we had better debugging tools. And that Skyrim itself didn't crash without leaving a messagebox explanation. What we need is a law that says "If the vendor doesn't fix bugs, they have to release the source so that users can debug and fix them." We've been talking about that for years in security circles, because of so many worms infecting non-updating consumer devices. But it should also apply to other software.