Alternative Beginnings 1.4.6

Hey I tried this out, but could find the note / body / whatever I am supposed to be looking for, I went to the manor in the pic and searched all around and turned grass off in case it hid anything outside and I searched the inside and spoke to the npc there and I am stumped.  How am I supposed to start the main quest with this?

The manor in what pic?

You're supposed to go to Fort Ash when you want to pick up the MQ.

Arthmoor ... question.

I'm trying to create a load order that is as best I can not ever trying to do the main quest. I looked into this ... and used it in the past, but I've been gone for a decade, so rusty. Anyway ... using this with the Kvatch Rebuilt intact option. And the note on an adventurer not found and no intention of finding it.

Now with that set up will the emporer be alive and remain alive? Will Kvatch remain intact? If no amulet or letter is ever addressed? I'm pretty sure I asked this years ago on forums long since lost.

If not is there some custom editing I can do ... like a setstage or hidden fame attribute qualifier I can adjust such that they do.

thanks in advance

as always, love your work.

Yes, with that setup the game begins with the Emperor alive and well. Kvatch should also be intact and visitable.

Events will proceed to the assassination phase once your fame or infamy reaches 10. So if you're dead set on things never advancing, you can monitor your fame/infamy and edit those back down if you want. It's not going to be the most ideal way of handling things but it should work.

Thanks man. I'm relearning a lot and have a lot of catching up to do ... having stepped away from all games and modding for a decade. So much appreciation for any help with this.

Currently I'm trying to master the tes4ll with MPGUI and ... I did get it to work a few times and have some reference variants.

Even with the Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp installed (though it does fully merge into the bashed patch) - what I'm seeing is burnt ground around what appears a fully built Kvatch, so the walls and everything are fine, no war camp out front etc. But the ground is black?

This could be an issue with how I'm messing up with with tes4ll, so any tips would be appreciated.

The current load order I'm building is for a lot more infrastructure in tamriel world space - so testing out a lot of village compilations - mod testing arrangements no set load order yet, been checking out your OCR and kinda surprised that after all this time, people still not modding for them  .. only patching. Anyway the  current goal for me is no Oblivion Gates and as much intact as long as possible. Not planing any severe overhauls or overhaul combos, though I may try my hand at making patches so that they are in effect only in dungeons, while the surface world stays low level and very sparse lower level spawns. The CTDs from pushing my system currently all about too much AI competing with the game rendering surface landscape and infrastructure additions.

Related I learned that SM plugin refurbish has an option for knights of the Nine to not have the priory near anvil destroyed unless a level which allows for adjusting via OBSE. Not tested that yet. Likely though that will come out as ... I'd only have it due to including all DLC ends up meaning fewer patches.

thanks again

this is me ... if you forgot

If you're using that plugin the ground shouldn't be burnt when you show up there regardless of what tes4ll did. For the LOD I could see it still being black if it's somehow not including that plugin in it's generation process.

Unfortunately it's been too long since I used that stuff so I don't remember how any of it works anymore. So apparently you can forget stuff you did regularly if you stop doing it for long enough

CTDs are part of the modding game. You have to keep a balance. Don't get caught up in "mod greed". It's a hard lesson to learn, and one that took me years to finally admit to. That's why what's left of my Oblivion install is mostly content mods like Unique Landscapes and my villages and such, but not a full suite of texture packs beyond what QTP3 at 1K resolution offers.

And yes, I remember who you are. My lizard brain hasn't forgotten everything yet

Cool.

So yeah ... I've learned my lessons and I don't play with replacers or OOO/FCOM ... not trying to push limits. It is just after seeing Starfield then Skyblivion progress and then seeing a bit of TWMP ... had to check that stuff out. That brought me back - nostalgic too I guess.

Am I correct in assuming that this mod is a finalized and more fully realized version of MOE main quest delayer. Seems so ... that mod said it needed the old version of kvatch rebuilt ... surprisingly I had that squirreled away, but loading it ... seems to have no required masters, how can it set kvatch to fully rebuilt. Well ... gonna find out.

Not mod greed as much as remember that the thing that finally turned me off with Oblivion was completing or even doing the main quest. Prefer the sandbox. Testing mods though...that came back after a few months of sticking my nose back in.

thanks for what you do.

[edit]wait nevermind about the origins ... I retraced it ... modular then modular with kvatch rebuilt then alternate start revamped ... then this.

No, this mod has nothing to do with MOE in any way and was never intended to be used as a main quest delayer. It's only meant to be an alternate start. That said, yes, you can delay it to an extent even without the KR mod just by ignoring what you need to do in order to advance it far enough.

sometimes i have to load this after the bashed patch for the mod to work, but i cant figure out why

You'd need to check the Bashed Patch to see what it's doing. There should be no reason for it to interfere with this mod though.

is it possible we can get some voiced dialog using xVASynth or ElevenLabs anytime soon?

I've asked in the comments of ElevenLabs, and I think all that is needed is your permission to get started.

No. Use of AI in mods is something I find personally distasteful because it puts real voice actors out of work. That's not something I'll ever approve of allowing in any of my mods.

7 hours ago, Arthmoor said:

No. Use of AI in mods is something I find personally distasteful because it puts real voice actors out of work. That's not something I'll ever approve of allowing in any of my mods.

it's unfortunate to hear.

Will there ever be voiced dialogue then, or is it just wishful thinking?

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I apologize for asking here, but this is the only place I could think of where I could possibly get some assistance. I simply visited TES Alliance to leave comments on your two mods, and it appears that I have been banned or something.

I can't speak to why TESA banned you (or anyone else) but I can say that their site has had an ongoing issue for ages where uploads don't go through so you'll only be able to find the most recent stuff here anyway.

It's highly unlikely that any voiced dialogue will be added to the mod.

12 hours ago, Arthmoor said:

I can't speak to why TESA banned you (or anyone else) but I can say that their site has had an ongoing issue for ages where uploads don't go through so you'll only be able to find the most recent stuff here anyway.

It's highly unlikely that any voiced dialogue will be added to the mod.

Apparently just commenting on your mods is enough to get banned on TESA . Nice to know 

I seriously doubt it was something that arbitrary, but that's also something you'll need to take up with them as I have no control over that.

Is there any change in dialog?

Having issues loading it. It triggers the prisoner start, but not the others. 

No bedroll in prison either.