Gruffydd's Signs and Posters 5.1.2

2 hours ago, Simbe20 said:

First of of all, thanks for the mod! The amount of content is great and I really love using the signs. It must have been some work to put it all together,
That said, there are some that don't work, sometimes only a few within a category, sometimes a whole subcategory. In those cases, the shape of the sign is there but the sign's graphic isn't displayed correctly, Instead the surface shows some brown metal structure, which looks like some rusty shop front or something.

That's the default texture when a material replacer is missing.

There are two known signs with that issue that I have verified in my files, that are to be fixed soon. I'm not aware of any others that are having this issue, unless there was a problem with your install.

Please let me know specifically which signs are showing the default texture, and I'll check my files. Depending on what I find, I'll either add the sign to the list of ones to fix, or suggest that you try re-installing that particular module.

On 3/7/2022 at 12:34 PM, Gruffydd said:

If the menu structure is there, try putting the data manually into the appropriate spots in the Data folder. That should fix your sign issues. If it doesn't, please let me know specifically which signs aren't working, so I can check them on my end and make sure they are pathed correctly.

I usually don't do anything to work with another mod (other than sometimes a sign that references one when I particularly like the work - ex: the Snappy Housekits billboard, the Jenn's Cleaning Service poster, or the Yondergirl's Quilt Shoppe sign), because there are just so many variations out there. But I can probably make some generic settlement signs for those places. Which ones would you want other than Concord, Quincy, and Lexington?

I can probably do that. Honestly, I've never really looked at nameplates on desks. Where specifically would I find an example of one, so I can check to see what the ID is on it?

Unfortunately, probably not. Everything I make uses vanilla meshes because I don't know how to use Blender or any other such programs to edit them, and there's only so much you can do with them in NIFSkope. I have previously managed to do neon, but not in a new mesh, just as lighting on an otherwise normal sign (ex: Cat's Paw). If you'd like some specific signs like that I can probably work stuff in, but new meshes, especially with custom snap points, are beyond me at this time.

Hi there! Thanks for the response, and sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

1. The menu is there, putting the Textures/Meshes/etc into my data folder by hand didn't fix anything. It's actually every single one of the signs from the Generic/Miscellaneous batch, including the paint buckets.

2. Besides Qunicy, Concord, and Lexington, I'd also like one for Vault 81 and the Nakano Residence, though that one I'd like to be named "Home Waters" as well as ones saying:

Everett

Weymouth

University Point

Fort Hagen (If this could be like your other signs for Fort Strong/Independence, I'd appreciate it)

Chestnut

East's End

East's Watch

Steeple Heights

Overlook

Some of those last ones are not what the areas are called in game, but it's what I'd like to call the communities the mods add. There's others, but those are the priority ones that I'm most interested in. 

3. I'll see if I can find one in game. Maybe the secretary had one in Diamond City. If not, it's not a big deal.

4. That's fair. I'm trying to learn how this stuff works too, and keep getting slapped around by the Creation Kit. Would it be possible for you to make light-up versions of the posters like the ones for the DLC, specifically for the Dean Domino/Magnolia posters?

Thanks again for the reply, and for any work you're willing to do on my behalf.

1 minute ago, Cineromantic said:

Hi there! Thanks for the response, and sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

1. The menu is there, putting the Textures/Meshes/etc into my data folder by hand didn't fix anything. It's actually every single one of the signs from the Generic/Miscellaneous batch, including the paint buckets.

2. Besides Qunicy, Concord, and Lexington, I'd also like one for Vault 81 and the Nakano Residence, though that one I'd like to be named "Home Waters" as well as ones saying:

Everett

Weymouth

University Point

Fort Hagen (If this could be like your other signs for Fort Strong/Independence, I'd appreciate it)

Chestnut

East's End

East's Watch

Steeple Heights

Overlook

Some of those last ones are not what the areas are called in game, but it's what I'd like to call the communities the mods add. There's others, but those are the priority ones that I'm most interested in. 

3. I'll see if I can find one in game. Maybe the secretary had one in Diamond City. If not, it's not a big deal.

4. That's fair. I'm trying to learn how this stuff works too, and keep getting slapped around by the Creation Kit. Would it be possible for you to make light-up versions of the posters like the ones for the DLC, specifically for the Dean Domino/Magnolia posters?

Thanks again for the reply, and for any work you're willing to do on my behalf.

One of the earliest fixes I made was when the Generic/Misc category wasn't working, and exactly as you described. I was trying to change the paths to work with MO2, and realized early on that it was way too big of a project, and stopped. However, it was that modified file that made it into the upload. The fix was replacing it with the correct one, which I thought fixed the issue.

Please re-download that module, and install, and see if that fixes it.

For the other settlements, I'm sure I can work those in, but if you could do me a favor, look over the settlement signs currently available, and for each one let me know what shape you want it ("Like the [x] sign") and if you want a clean crisp texture (recently professionally painted), an old faded texture, or a clean but rough texture (recently unprofessionally painted). That will help a lot when figuring out what look to give each one.

I'll look into making light-up posters for those two. I'm glad you specifically mentioned them, as a lot of work went into both. The Dean Domino one was entirely re-created by hand (because we can't port assets from an earlier game... forbidden by Bethesda) and took many hours to put together. The Magnolia one was less intensive, but also an early favorite of mine. I've put a lot more effort into some of the posters than anything else in the mod, both because they're higher resolution and because I'm really invested in the concept or had a fun idea. Parkside Brewery, Mary Goodneighbor, Reduced Shakespeare, Omnia and Sabaton are some of my particular favorites. So it's always nice to hear that someone particularly likes a poster that I put a lot of time into.

This is an suck an amazing mod thank you for all the work you've put into creating this!

As a heads up it still appears that the generic/misc module still doesn't appear to be working. I've tried both a vortex and a manual install. The signs/posters are in the menus but only the default textures are still showing.

Again thank you for all the hard work. I can't imagine it was easy to find all this still let alone maintain this mod.

Welp, I have achieved utopia! Our enemies at home have been... Reeducated, all threats to peace and order were exterminated, the Commonwealth is now safe and prosperous under the General's benevolent rule.

Next step; Use the Murkwater signs and a few Talon company armors to make a post-war corporate consortium. 

Thank you again for inspiring me to make these playthroughs!

I keep intending to get that update for the Generic and Miscellaneous module up that will hopefully solve the problem, but the last couple of weeks have been very busy with IRL stuff, and it just hasn't happened.

This upcoming weekend is sort of a holiday weekend where I work, in that we get Thursday off. I'm requesting Friday off as vacation PTO, and if granted I'll have a four-day weekend, so I should have time to get that update finished and uploaded then.

Sorry for the delay, folks. Hopefully this time it fixes the issue.

On 3/14/2022 at 8:40 PM, Gruffydd said:

One of the earliest fixes I made was when the Generic/Misc category wasn't working, and exactly as you described. I was trying to change the paths to work with MO2, and realized early on that it was way too big of a project, and stopped. However, it was that modified file that made it into the upload. The fix was replacing it with the correct one, which I thought fixed the issue.

Please re-download that module, and install, and see if that fixes it.

For the other settlements, I'm sure I can work those in, but if you could do me a favor, look over the settlement signs currently available, and for each one let me know what shape you want it ("Like the [x] sign") and if you want a clean crisp texture (recently professionally painted), an old faded texture, or a clean but rough texture (recently unprofessionally painted). That will help a lot when figuring out what look to give each one.

I'll look into making light-up posters for those two. I'm glad you specifically mentioned them, as a lot of work went into both. The Dean Domino one was entirely re-created by hand (because we can't port assets from an earlier game... forbidden by Bethesda) and took many hours to put together. The Magnolia one was less intensive, but also an early favorite of mine. I've put a lot more effort into some of the posters than anything else in the mod, both because they're higher resolution and because I'm really invested in the concept or had a fun idea. Parkside Brewery, Mary Goodneighbor, Reduced Shakespeare, Omnia and Sabaton are some of my particular favorites. So it's always nice to hear that someone particularly likes a poster that I put a lot of time into.

Hi there.

First of all, sorry for the delay in the response, and thanks for your willingness to help. I'm glad that my appreciation for the Dean Domino poster meant something. I also really love the idea of making new advertisements for the businesses springing up in the New World.

Redownloading the Miscellaneous pack didn't solve the issue, unfortunately. Still getting blank posters.

As for the other settlements, I'm including a couple screenshots of the styles I'd like, and I'll elaborate a little. There are also a couple ones I forgot to request the last time. Hope that's okay.

Fort Hagen, Fort Strong, and Hanscom Air Force Base. I realize that Fort Strong already has a sign like this, but I'd like one that's MM themed. They don't need to say "Minutemen Headquarters" part, just have the logo, name, and slogan.

For Vault 81, I'd just like a number swapped version of this one:

For Quincy, Concord, Lexington, Chestnut, East's Watch, and Two Sun, I'd like signs like this: Weathered, but recently professionally painted.

For Everett, Weymouth, East's End, Steeple Heights, I'd like clean versions, but unprofessionally painted versions of the above sign.

For Northwind Point (Nakano Residence) and Dunwich, I'd like signs that look both recently made and professionally painted. Like the Pre-War Sanctuary Hills sign. I especially would like something that makes Dunwich seem totally nice and benign, kinda like the vibe Covenant is going for.

And lastly, for The Overlook, I'd like a sign like the Post-War Sanctuary Hills sign. Something that looks like it's been neglected for 200 years.

"Welcome to The Overlook Hotel"

Additionally, I'd like one of these signs for this location:

With text along the lines of "The Overlook Hotel Masquerade Ball in the Gold Room Saturday October 23rd, 2077 Doors open at 8:00 Unmasking at Midnight"

Formatting and font is obviously up to your discretion, and please feel free to make it cleaner.

Once again, I really have to thank you for agreeing to indulge me, and apologize one more time for disappearing like I did. I'll keep trying to get the Miscellaneous mod to work for me and let you know if I have any success.

23 hours ago, Cineromantic said:

Hi there.

First of all, sorry for the delay in the response, and thanks for your willingness to help. I'm glad that my appreciation for the Dean Domino poster meant something. I also really love the idea of making new advertisements for the businesses springing up in the New World.

Redownloading the Miscellaneous pack didn't solve the issue, unfortunately. Still getting blank posters.

As for the other settlements, I'm including a couple screenshots of the styles I'd like, and I'll elaborate a little. There are also a couple ones I forgot to request the last time. Hope that's okay.

Fort Hagen, Fort Strong, and Hanscom Air Force Base. I realize that Fort Strong already has a sign like this, but I'd like one that's MM themed. They don't need to say "Minutemen Headquarters" part, just have the logo, name, and slogan.

For Vault 81, I'd just like a number swapped version of this one:

For Quincy, Concord, Lexington, Chestnut, East's Watch, and Two Sun, I'd like signs like this: Weathered, but recently professionally painted.

For Everett, Weymouth, East's End, Steeple Heights, I'd like clean versions, but unprofessionally painted versions of the above sign.

For Northwind Point (Nakano Residence) and Dunwich, I'd like signs that look both recently made and professionally painted. Like the Pre-War Sanctuary Hills sign. I especially would like something that makes Dunwich seem totally nice and benign, kinda like the vibe Covenant is going for.

 

And lastly, for The Overlook, I'd like a sign like the Post-War Sanctuary Hills sign. Something that looks like it's been neglected for 200 years.

"Welcome to The Overlook Hotel"

Additionally, I'd like one of these signs for this location:

With text along the lines of "The Overlook Hotel Masquerade Ball in the Gold Room Saturday October 23rd, 2077 Doors open at 8:00 Unmasking at Midnight"

Formatting and font is obviously up to your discretion, and please feel free to make it cleaner.

Once again, I really have to thank you for agreeing to indulge me, and apologize one more time for disappearing like I did. I'll keep trying to get the Miscellaneous mod to work for me and let you know if I have any success.

So, while these signs are for generic settlements, they're pretty specific, and there's 17 of them.

I can see others wanting to use these, but at the same time, they won't necessarily blend in with the other generic settlement signs.

Thankfully, the new mod format works perfectly for this. I'll just make another module (like I did with the other custom request I did, for Murkwater Oil), and then whoever wants to use them can just install that module.

However, it's not going to happen until I get this issue with the Generic and Misc module resolved, which will hopefully be this upcoming weekend.

Okay, I have uploaded another new version of the GenericAndMiscellaneous module. Please give it a try.

If it is still buggy, please let me know 6-12 specific object names that aren't working, so I can troubleshoot those specifically and see if I can track down the problem.

Every single one of the objects is working on my computer, so I'm having troubles identifying any specific issues. Your providing specific data on what isn't working after trying this new upload will greatly help.

Just for clarification, only the GAM module has been updated, so you don't need to re-download and re-install the whole mod, just that module.

3 hours ago, Gruffydd said:

Okay, I have uploaded another new version of the GenericAndMiscellaneous module. Please give it a try.

If it is still buggy, please let me know 6-12 specific object names that aren't working, so I can troubleshoot those specifically and see if I can track down the problem.

Every single one of the objects is working on my computer, so I'm having troubles identifying any specific issues. Your providing specific data on what isn't working after trying this new upload will greatly help.

Just for clarification, only the GAM module has been updated, so you don't need to re-download and re-install the whole mod, just that module.

So it still looks like the module is buggy. The signs are showing up in the menu but only the generic metal texture is showing.

Here's some specific objects, i tried to grab them from different sections:

• GSP - SHOP ARMOR
• GSP - SHOP BANNER GENERAL TRADER
• GSP - VENDOR BAR SM
• GSP - WOOD BREWER
• GSP -  GENERIC MEDICAL 2
• GSP - HARDWARE KITCHEN
• GSP - POSTER WANDERER
• GSP - TARGET SYNTH
• GSP - SHOP CCA BAR
• GSP - SHOP SND GENERAL TRADER

Thank you for looking into this!

16 minutes ago, likeadesperatefool said:

So it still looks like the module is buggy. The signs are showing up in the menu but only the generic metal texture is showing.

Here's some specific objects, i tried to grab them from different sections:

• GSP - SHOP ARMOR
• GSP - SHOP BANNER GENERAL TRADER
• GSP - VENDOR BAR SM
• GSP - WOOD BREWER
• GSP -  GENERIC MEDICAL 2
• GSP - HARDWARE KITCHEN
• GSP - POSTER WANDERER
• GSP - TARGET SYNTH
• GSP - SHOP CCA BAR
• GSP - SHOP SND GENERAL TRADER

Thank you for looking into this!

 

That helps, thanks. That tells me that it's an overall issue rather than a specific mesh/material replacer issue, which makes it easier to track down why it isn't showing up. It's especially weird because they all show on my game. I'll do some more digging tomorrow and see what I can come up with.

On 3/19/2022 at 7:19 PM, MaxForge said:

Welp, I have achieved utopia! Our enemies at home have been... Reeducated, all threats to peace and order were exterminated, the Commonwealth is now safe and prosperous under the General's benevolent rule.

Next step; Use the Murkwater signs and a few Talon company armors to make a post-war corporate consortium. 

 

Thank you again for inspiring me to make these playthroughs!

I need these flags, where can I find them? Always wanted banners for Soviet-era parades like this.

My quest to fix GenericAndMiscellaneous continues.

I still haven't tracked down whatever it is that's wrong with that one module. So, I'm starting from scratch. I now have a module called GenericShops that has all of the generic vendor signs for the vanilla shops (Weapons, Armor, Clothing, etc.). Please give it a try and let me know if it's working. If it is, I'll move on to the rest of the signs from GenericAndMiscellaneous. If not, it's back to the drawing board....

On 4/15/2022 at 1:37 PM, Cozoi said:

I need these flags, where can I find them? Always wanted banners for Soviet-era parades like this.

They're in the FactionsMinutemen plugin.

Has anyone tried the new GenericShops plugin yet?

If you have please let me know if it's working.

Thanks!

On 4/20/2022 at 9:36 PM, Gruffydd said:

Has anyone tried the new GenericShops plugin yet?

If you have please let me know if it's working.

Thanks!

Just installed the GenericShops plugin with Vortex. I'm still having issues on my end.  Going to try doing it manually and see if that helps. 

Edit: Manual install didn't work. I think I'm just never going to be able to enjoy these signs. Too bad, because I've really enjoyed all the other ones I've used by you so far.

6 hours ago, Cineromantic said:

Just installed the GenericShops plugin with Vortex. I'm still having issues on my end.  Going to try doing it manually and see if that helps. 

 

Edit: Manual install didn't work. I think I'm just never going to be able to enjoy these signs. Too bad, because I've really enjoyed all the other ones I've used by you so far.

Okay this is just weird. Again, they all worked on my computer.

Okay, only one thing to do. I'm going to recreate the entire GenericAndMiscellaneous plugin from scratch, not importing anything. Start from the textures, and rebuild the whole thing. Now, this isn't a small plugin, so it might take some time. But by the time I finish, hopefully it's all working again the way it should, and the way all of the other plugins do.

Okay, that sound you may have heard was a scream followed by the repeated banging of my head against my desk.

I think I found the problem. Or at least, I sure hope I did.

So, every single module has the same structure for Materials files. Materials > GruffyddS&P > GS&P-ModuleName. Or at least, that's what they're supposed to be. Turns out one of them - GenericAndMiscellaneous - was Materials > GS&P-ModuleName.

I only noticed this when I started to recreate the entire thing from scratch with a brand new plugin. Every other time I tried to fix this I opened it up and looked at the files. At no point did I open it at the top level and look at the basic folder structure. Because surely I wouldn't make that stupid and basic of an error. *sigh*

Please give it a try and let me know if this fixed it. Thanks!

Edit: Yes, I know some of the vault labels aren't working. That's next on my to-do list once I'm sure this issue is fixed.

Thank you so much for all the hard work with the Generic & Misc.  I just updated and for me it is still not working.  It DID change from the wood/metal background to the pink/purple background though.  I know nothing of mods or files so have no clue what would cause that to change but still not work so any advice would be great!  Thanks again!!

7 hours ago, XxOMGItsTara said:

Thank you so much for all the hard work with the Generic & Misc.  I just updated and for me it is still not working.  It DID change from the wood/metal background to the pink/purple background though.  I know nothing of mods or files so have no clue what would cause that to change but still not work so any advice would be great!  Thanks again!!

Well, this is good news, in a way.

It had the default texture before because the folder structure was off, so it couldn't find the material files for the material replacer.

Now, it's finding the materials, but is going pink on the signs because it can't find the textures. For the exact same reason, the folder structure was off there too.

I've fixed that now. I think it might actually work this time.

2 hours ago, Gruffydd said:

Well, this is good news, in a way.

It had the default texture before because the folder structure was off, so it couldn't find the material files for the material replacer.

Now, it's finding the materials, but is going pink on the signs because it can't find the textures. For the exact same reason, the folder structure was off there too.

I've fixed that now. I think it might actually work this time.

It worked!!! Thank you so much!

It is so good to have that bug finally fixed.

Now that that's done, I can start working on other things.

Coming up: 1) Fixing the glitchy institute labels, 2) Adding in some settlement signs that were requested, 3) A new module for Graffiti

For that third item, if there's anything you'd like to be able to use as graffiti let me know. Also, if there's a color you like that is either one of the in-game paint can colors or one of the ones I've added in this mod, let me know and I can set it to be that color and use the paint can as materials. I downloaded a lot of good graffiti fonts, from rough scribbles to wall art, so there's a lot of variety available.

A quick sample on a concrete wall:

how about "The truth is out there"  

2 hours ago, Uncus said:

how about "The truth is out there"  

Something like this?

That was quick, thanks