Gruffydd's Signs and Posters 5.1.2

Thank you so much for the update!  I can not live without your signs!  They add so much more life to my settlements.

Lan

1 hour ago, LdyBelial said:

Thank you so much for the update!  I can not live without your signs!  They add so much more life to my settlements.

Lan

You're very welcome! There's a bunch of new stuff hidden away throughout this update, so be sure to look through those menus for anything new that might catch your fancy. Too much stuff to list, really.

Getting a new game ready to go so I can explore all the goodness!!!

Lan

Just a reminder, if you're using this mod and something isn't working right please let me know so I can try to fix it. And if it's working smoothly for you, please let me know that as well. I still have a very limited list of confirmations that it's working.

Thanks!

On 2/17/2022 at 11:58 PM, Gruffydd said:

Just a reminder, if you're using this mod and something isn't working right please let me know so I can try to fix it. And if it's working smoothly for you, please let me know that as well. I still have a very limited list of confirmations that it's working.

Thanks!

So far so good!  I'll share some screenshots once I get the settlement full dressed up!  

Lan

Every single sign except the notice board is just some metal texture and nothing is working to fix it

5 hours ago, Yolgrim said:

Every single sign except the notice board is just some metal texture and nothing is working to fix it

That's the default texture when the material replacers aren't working. Odds are one of your folders is in the wrong spot or got renamed. What method did you use to install?

Really love the visual storytelling these signs allow. I am curious, though, the Tyranical Minutemen signs, which Ministry handles what, do you guys reckon? 

I am... Asking for a friend... >.>

17 hours ago, MaxForge said:

Really love the visual storytelling these signs allow. I am curious, though, the Tyranical Minutemen signs, which Ministry handles what, do you guys reckon? 

I am... Asking for a friend... >.>

Well, of course what each one does is really whatever you think it does for your particular playthrough.

But what I had in mind when I made them (mostly in the classic doublespeak that the most vile of real-world regimes tend to use)...

Ministry of Education: The group charged with rounding up dissidents and taking them away for "re-education". Torture, brainwashing, and so on.

Ministry of Labor: The group charged with ensuring that all under the Minutemen's control are working the required number of hours toward whatever is the current goal. Work camps, quotas, and so on.

Ministry of Order: The "secret" police. Not so secret, really. Everyone knows about them, everyone fears them. And when a whole household disappears in the middle of the night, it's often their logo found on the door the next morning.

Ministry of Peace: The war department. Charged with fighting and possibly exterminating any who threaten the General's rule. Ghouls, supermutants, raiders, other factions, whoever poses - or might in the future pose - a threat.

Ministry of Resources: Charged with "requisitioning" supplies needed to keep the Minutemen running. Even if it means the common people do without.

Ministry of Science: One of the few that really is what it says. In charge of scientific research. Probably working on advanced weapon technology, powered armor, that kind of thing. They'd love to get their hands on an Institute lab.

Ministry of Truth: Propaganda. Lies. Distortions. Doublespeak. Media control. It's either run by Piper or she was the first casualty. Either way Publick Occurences is their primary mouthpiece, along with whatever radio they control.

Ministry of Wellness: Charged with ensuring the purity of the citizens. Those who become tainted, whether by radiation, FEV, disease, or whatever, are eliminated to preserve resources and ensure a healthy citizenry. Also likely disposes of the aged, infirm, or disabled.

So, yeah, some scary stuff, which unfortunately is mostly taken straight from the real world.

By the way, the motto, Per Ducis Imperium, is the closest I could get (not actually knowing the language) to something cool and foreboding sounding in Latin for "By the General's command". And yes, I often had visions of 1980s Cylons going through my head while typing it.

Damnit, I just noticed that on the flag it's missing an I, and says imperum rather than imperium. I didn't catch it until just now. *sigh* I'll get that fixed at some point in the future here.

Pretty much what I expected. 

Combined your mod with Militarized Minutemen, Sim Settlement and America Rising. This is now a very bleak game about war between four Tyranical regimes...

Hmm, There are a few mods with Talon Company imagery, I might use those for the secret police uniform. Matches the Imperium logo...

Been having some bother with that default metal texture showing, looks like I've got everything working except a couple assets in Signs of the Times. Bigger issue, the category for settlement signs has vanished. I installed everything with Vortex.

5 hours ago, WolfKittySG1 said:

Been having some bother with that default metal texture showing, looks like I've got everything working except a couple assets in Signs of the Times. Bigger issue, the category for settlement signs has vanished. I installed everything with Vortex.

Let me know which signs and I'll check the paths on my end to see if it's something I need to fix or something on your end of things.

Which settlement signs? The generic ones or something faction specific?

On 3/2/2022 at 7:45 AM, Gruffydd said:

Let me know which signs and I'll check the paths on my end to see if it's something I need to fix or something on your end of things.

Which settlement signs? The generic ones or something faction specific?

The Generic ones I assume? The category that has a sign for each settlement, there could be more missing that I don't remember. I'll post again with missing signs when I can.

29 minutes ago, WolfKittySG1 said:

The Generic ones I assume? The category that has a sign for each settlement, there could be more missing that I don't remember. I'll post again with missing signs when I can.

Found a loas of settlement name signs in Wall Signs, I assume they're the ones I thought were missing? or is there another category of free standing name settlement signs somewhere?

Missing sign textures are Small Signs DIA wall seal 2 (missing all texture entirely, shows as pink/purple), Road Signs parking and Wall Signs Tiki Motel. Thought there were more when last I was on but I can live without those if it's an issue on my end.

Another problem cropped up. The vault signs, most of the 2a + ones show fine but the words on 1a + rarely show up, I just see empty signs with no words.

New question: What is the story of the Murkwater oil signs? Pre-war company that survived the war? 

On 3/4/2022 at 7:46 AM, WolfKittySG1 said:

Found a loas of settlement name signs in Wall Signs, I assume they're the ones I thought were missing? or is there another category of free standing name settlement signs somewhere?

Missing sign textures are Small Signs DIA wall seal 2 (missing all texture entirely, shows as pink/purple), Road Signs parking and Wall Signs Tiki Motel. Thought there were more when last I was on but I can live without those if it's an issue on my end.

Another problem cropped up. The vault signs, most of the 2a + ones show fine but the words on 1a + rarely show up, I just see empty signs with no words.

On checking my files, you are quite right on the Parking and Tiki Motel signs. I'll get those fixed as soon as I can.

The DIA Logo 02 sign was still pointing at the old file location. I'll get that changed asap as well.

I'm not sure what's going on with the vault signs. They were working for me before, and now when I checked they're acting up as you are describing. Which is weird because it's the same base meshes just with material replacers. I'll look into that and see what I can figure out, but that one may take longer to fix as I am not immediately seeing what the problem is.

For settlement signs, they're scattered throughout the menus. There should be a settlement signs section in:

Gruffydd > Ground and Roof > Ground and Roof Signs > Settlements > Other Settlements

Gruffydd > Wall > Wall Signs > Settlements

Gruffydd > Factions > Brotherhood of Steel > BoS Settlements

Gruffydd > Factions > Institute > Institute Settlements

Gruffydd > Factions > Minutemen > MM Settlements

Gruffydd > Factions > Other Factions > Other Faction Settlements

19 hours ago, MaxForge said:

New question: What is the story of the Murkwater oil signs? Pre-war company that survived the war? 

Honestly I have no idea.

I made those on request by someone on my Patreon. He wanted it for a very specific build he was putting together for some kind of contest he was having with some group he was a part of. I think. It's been a while, and he dropped off the planet shortly after I finished the signs, as far as I can tell.

Because it doesn't really fit in except in very specific build concepts, I put it in its own separate plugin, but I figured why waste all that work? If someone has a use for it, it's there for them. Anything I made as part of it that wasn't specific to the company (ex: a bunch of safety signs) are merged in with the regular parts of the mod, so it's only the stuff that directly references the company that are in the separate plugin.

My recommendation is, if you like any of it, come up with your own story to fit.

Hi there!

First of all, this collection of signs is awesome. I've had a couple small issues (A Minuteman General sign is all purple, and the Generic/Miscellaneous signs described earlier are also glitched for me, but I'm reinstalling those and seeing if that fixes it), but this is one of the best mods for ambience I've seen lately. Made a profile here specifically to download your work.

Edit: Reinstalling didn't work. 

Since you're generous enough to take requests, I have a couple I'd like to ask of you, if you don't mind.

I'd love it if you could make some of your themed signs for other territories that aren't settlements in the base game, but were added as settlements by mods, such as Concord, Quincy, Lexington. It would also be amazing if you could make some Raider/Gunner Graffiti that can be applied to the signs to indicate a community has been taken over.

Would it be possible to make the kinds of name plates that you see for desks, with various themes (eg: General, Quartermaster, Lieutenant, Comms Officer, Captain for Minutemen, Director for Institute, Overseer, Head of Security, Head Engineer for Vault-Tec, Paladin, Knight, Scribe for Brotherhood, Overboss for Raiders [Seriously, can I please have an Overboss name plate?], Mayor, Receptionist, Sheriff, Chief for generic settlements)? The name plates themselves don't need to be themed a certain way, just wanted to break them up to show what I was looking for.

Also, while this is a bit different than what you've done so far, would it be possible to include mods of the Neon letters that come in the Wasteland Workshop pack that are larger and smaller than the ones we currently have? Somewhere in the range of .5-.75 for the smaller ones and 1.5-2.0 for the larger ones? And would it also be possible to build neon sign "frames" that you can snap the letters into?

Something like the frame here? And possibly a vertical format?

Hopefully none of this is out of the realm of possibility and piques your interest. I don't really have any priorities here, and frankly don't really have any illusions of any of this stuff being added. It's all just stuff I think would be cool to see in game, and hopefully you do too.

Thanks again for everything you've done so far!

17 hours ago, Cineromantic said:

First of all, this collection of signs is awesome. I've had a couple small issues (A Minuteman General sign is all purple, and the Generic/Miscellaneous signs described earlier are also glitched for me, but I'm reinstalling those and seeing if that fixes it), but this is one of the best mods for ambience I've seen lately. Made a profile here specifically to download your work.

Edit: Reinstalling didn't work.

If the menu structure is there, try putting the data manually into the appropriate spots in the Data folder. That should fix your sign issues. If it doesn't, please let me know specifically which signs aren't working, so I can check them on my end and make sure they are pathed correctly.

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I'd love it if you could make some of your themed signs for other territories that aren't settlements in the base game, but were added as settlements by mods, such as Concord, Quincy, Lexington. It would also be amazing if you could make some Raider/Gunner Graffiti that can be applied to the signs to indicate a community has been taken over.

I usually don't do anything to work with another mod (other than sometimes a sign that references one when I particularly like the work - ex: the Snappy Housekits billboard, the Jenn's Cleaning Service poster, or the Yondergirl's Quilt Shoppe sign), because there are just so many variations out there. But I can probably make some generic settlement signs for those places. Which ones would you want other than Concord, Quincy, and Lexington?

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Would it be possible to make the kinds of name plates that you see for desks, with various themes (eg: General, Quartermaster, Lieutenant, Comms Officer, Captain for Minutemen, Director for Institute, Overseer, Head of Security, Head Engineer for Vault-Tec, Paladin, Knight, Scribe for Brotherhood, Overboss for Raiders [Seriously, can I please have an Overboss name plate?], Mayor, Receptionist, Sheriff, Chief for generic settlements)? The name plates themselves don't need to be themed a certain way, just wanted to break them up to show what I was looking for.

I can probably do that. Honestly, I've never really looked at nameplates on desks. Where specifically would I find an example of one, so I can check to see what the ID is on it?

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Also, while this is a bit different than what you've done so far, would it be possible to include mods of the Neon letters that come in the Wasteland Workshop pack that are larger and smaller than the ones we currently have? Somewhere in the range of .5-.75 for the smaller ones and 1.5-2.0 for the larger ones? And would it also be possible to build neon sign "frames" that you can snap the letters into?

Something like the frame here? And possibly a vertical format?

Unfortunately, probably not. Everything I make uses vanilla meshes because I don't know how to use Blender or any other such programs to edit them, and there's only so much you can do with them in NIFSkope. I have previously managed to do neon, but not in a new mesh, just as lighting on an otherwise normal sign (ex: Cat's Paw). If you'd like some specific signs like that I can probably work stuff in, but new meshes, especially with custom snap points, are beyond me at this time.

Hey, I was hoping someone could help. I cannot for the life of me get this mod to work. I used to have your stuff via Nexus and I absolutely loved it. Can't live without it tbh.

I'm using Vortex.

I installed SMM, then downloaded the files for this and installed them using the drag-and-drop in vortex. The menus just won't show up. I tried the fix menu feature, then did a clean uninstall of SMM and this mod, then did a clean re-install. No dice. I know it's getting installed, though, because when I reload the save I get the warning about 'items may not be present' from this mod specifically. So the files were there and accessed, but for some reason I couldn't get the menus to pop up.

I assume this is probably a SMM issue but I was hoping someone might be able to help. 

3 hours ago, geminiblue said:

Hey, I was hoping someone could help. I cannot for the life of me get this mod to work. I used to have your stuff via Nexus and I absolutely loved it. Can't live without it tbh.

I'm using Vortex.

I installed SMM, then downloaded the files for this and installed them using the drag-and-drop in vortex. The menus just won't show up. I tried the fix menu feature, then did a clean uninstall of SMM and this mod, then did a clean re-install. No dice. I know it's getting installed, though, because when I reload the save I get the warning about 'items may not be present' from this mod specifically. So the files were there and accessed, but for some reason I couldn't get the menus to pop up.

I assume this is probably a SMM issue but I was hoping someone might be able to help. 

Did you have SMM installed and working before installing this mod? You can't do them both at the same time, it has to be SMM then GS&P, because of the way the quest that triggers the menus works.

If that's not it, do you have any other mods that might alter the Decorations menu, that are loading after both SMM and GS&P?

20 hours ago, Gruffydd said:

If the menu structure is there, try putting the data manually into the appropriate spots in the Data folder. That should fix your sign issues. If it doesn't, please let me know specifically which signs aren't working, so I can check them on my end and make sure they are pathed correctly.

Huge, HUGE props on this mod.  It adds such cool flavor to our builds (my wife and I both) and your hard work is very much appreciated.  Wondering specifically what you mean by this. Are you referring to the mesh / material / texture folders associated with the different sets?  We installed through Vortex where you can <Install from file>. Everything appears to be where it belongs but there are some sets that only show the base mesh.  For us both it is the businesses signs and shows the distressed metal mesh (thats what it looks like to me).  Thanks for the prompt feedback and we owe you a few cups of coffee in the near future!

ChiefB

Do I have to install all of these files? Is there a combined version of this mod?

3 hours ago, Lefttounge said:

Do I have to install all of these files? Is there a combined version of this mod?

No, you don't have to install all of them. You need to install the core mod, and then whichever of the modules have objects that you want to use.

No, there is not a combined version of this mod. There used to be, but it was getting too large, and there were logistical reasons it needed to be broken up into smaller pieces.

All but the core won't count against your mod limit. But if you really only want to have one mod, you can use FO4Edit to add the objects from the modules to the core mod. They all use that menu structure, so there shouldn't be much else you need to do.

First of of all, thanks for the mod! The amount of content is great and I really love using the signs. It must have been some work to put it all together,
That said, there are some that don't work, sometimes only a few within a category, sometimes a whole subcategory. In those cases, the shape of the sign is there but the sign's graphic isn't displayed correctly, Instead the surface shows some brown metal structure, which looks like some rusty shop front or something.