Alternate Start - Live Another Life 4.2.1

Looks good chum, I upgraded to this one recently with no problems.

Thank you!

On 1/9/2022 at 5:51 PM, BlackPete said:

Arthmoor only provides the latest version for download, which is what is available here.

Also, read this topic. There's no such thing as a "non-AE edition" of the game; it's still Skyrim Special Edition. AE is an optional downloadable package of CC content.

This is incorrect as any version before 1.6 does not have ANY AE content.  Like many people who wanted to avoid upgrade problems until all or most of their mods had been upgraded, I disabled updates before SSE version 1.6 was out.  Several major mods I use still don't have a new version yet and the new version is still being worked on.So, if no one wants to help or give advice, I am just asking if anyone knows where I can download version 4.1.5 of this mod.  Is that really too much to ask?

There is nowhere to download 4.1.5 and there isn't going to be. Please stop asking.

Wow... I didn't really expect that from you.  You have always been amiable in the past. I have asked twice (NOT in the OP).  The second time was a clarification directed in frustration from all the contrary responses to a simple, non-intrusive question..

1. I Did not ask for "support."  In fact, I made it clear in my OP that I intended on troubleshooting this myself.  I am quite capable of supporting myself. I was just asking in case someone had happened to have the same problem or knew what might cause it; it might save me some time.
2. Plenty of people host previous versions of their mods... so I didn't really see any problem in asking.  Sorry I stepped on your toes..

On 1/8/2022 at 4:10 AM, BlackPete said:

First of all, you don't have the latest version of the game through Steam.

This point is negated by your follow-up statement that it worked for you on this (1.6.342) version.

Also, as stated in the current Alternate Start - Live Another Life.txt from LAL 1.4.6 under Installation Requirements "Skyrim Special Edition 1.6.318 or greater". 

Is 1.6.342 greater than or less than 1.6.318, Pete?

Quote

Second of all, what you're say isn't true, I didn't have that problem in my game before I updated to 1.6.353 the other day.

This point proves having 1.6.353 isn't needed so you're contradicting yourself while being snarky. What I said IS TRUE in my case otherwise I wouldn't be wasting my time providing the feedback.

Quote

There's a chance that you and others with the described issue either don't have the mod near the bottom of your load order (like the instructions say you should)

This is false as I allowed LOOT to sort it then double checked to make sure it was near the very bottom since my reading skills are at least college level.

Quote

or you're at or extremely close to the limit of 512 plugins in your "Data" folder.

Also false as I'm currently running only 150 active plugins.

I would like the plugin to work which is why I installed it. I provided feedback that the dialogue options DO NO APPEAR after activating the statue of Mara which leaves me stuck in the prison.

You think I'm here to waste my time making up stories for entertainment? Couple of you really need an attitude adjustment based on all these replies to your users.

If you simply want to blame us for YOUR product not working then might I suggest you just delete the forum for support altogether since you obviously don't want to support it by placing the blame on everyone else that provides you with feedback.

9 minutes ago, Urfer420 said:

If you simply want to blame us for YOUR product not working then might I suggest you just delete the forum for support altogether since you obviously don't want to support it by placing the blame on everyone else that provides you with feedback.

idk, mate. it works 100% fine for me. ive never had this issue with the options missing. i follow arthmoor's instructions and it works.

several posts earlier, someone mentions something RE: adjusting hotkeys in MCM/SkyUI causing a similar issue.

also: have you tried loading the game with ONLY (and i truly mean only) the base game + all DLC + USSEP + ASLAL? not even SKSE. not even SkyUI. not even MCM. nothing else. just those two plugins?

creation club content should not affect anything regarding this mod. key word: SHOULD. the 4 that comes with SSE for free might be the only ones that even have a chance.

maybe you need to look into your ini files? the mod obviously works. Arthmoor does good work.

That was me and this *is* an issue with SkyUI making dialogue disappear. There is nothing wrong with ASLAL.

Edited to say: skse claims they fixed this issue in the latest update. I have not seen the issue repeat, but also have not fully tested it.

I choose the boat to Ravenrock,when i'm waiting for the boat CG end,i move the mouse,the bote will move too,the view will be very strange. 

I am having in issue where my save gets corrupting and the statue of Mara doesn't show her menu I have tried everything I can think of but nothing works if someone could please help me I would be eternally grateful!

Here is my current mod list 

 RSkyrimChildren.esm
50  Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp  [Version 4.2.6a]
51  hdtHighHeel.esm
52  MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm
53  Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm
54  LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
55  Unique Flowers & Plants.esm
56  RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
57  MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
58  Campfire.esm
59  Falskaar.esm
5A  JSwordsD.esm  [Version 14.0]
5B  Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
5C  ThievesGuildDagger_SE_ENG.esl
5D  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
5E  Peacekeeper Armour.esl
5F  CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esl
60  Wyrmstooth.esp  [Version 1.19.7]
61  Backshields.esl
62  WH_Atmora_Shield.esl
63  BlackSacramentArmor.esl
64  1WR.esl
65  AdventurerMashupComp.esl
66  LustmordVampireArmor.esl
67  Shino Banners.esl
68  Heels Sound.esm
69  SkyUI_SE.esp
6A  SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp  [Version 1.4]
6B  Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods.esp
6C  Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp  [Version 3.1]
6D  SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
6E  Better Dynamic Snow.esp
6F  Ducks and Swans.esp
70  TrueStormsSE.esp
71  Swordbreaker.esp
72  Sugaruya Katana.esp
73  Sarta Sword.esp
74  Voam.esp
75  Knight Sword.esp
76  Scorpion Scimitar.esp
77  Falchion.esp
78  Broadsword.esp
79  Mage Glass Sword.esp
7A  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
7B  Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
7C  ELFX - Exteriors.esp
7D  Weapons & Armor Merge 1.esp
7E  ImmersiveIntegrationSE.esp
7F  Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp  [Version 2.0.6]
80  Snazzy Furniture and Clutter Overhaul.esp
81  Galanterie.esp
82  ScribesofSkyrim.esp
83  Cutting Room Floor.esp  [Version 3.1.11]
84  SFCO - LotD Patch.esp
85  WICO - Immersive People.esp
86  ELFX - NoPlayerHomes.esp
87  Eli_Breezehome.esp
88  IWI - WICO Patch.esp
89  WICO - USSEP Compatible Patch.esp
8A  ArmorFractionReplacer.esp
8B  cliffs.esp
8C  WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
8D  DIS_Armor_Compilation.esp
8E  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
8F  Immersive Weapons.esp
90  Hammerfell Armory SE.esp
91  SkyrimIsWindy.esp
92  SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp
93  Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp
94  SkyrimSewers.esp  [Version 4.14]
95  Cloaks.esp
96  SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp
97  LoS II - Lantern Workers.esp
98  EmbersHD.esp
99  NewArmoury.esp
9A  HistoricalWeapons.esp
9B  waterplants.esp
9C  LoS II - ELFX patch.esp
9D  LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp
9E  Craftable Horse Barding.esp
9F  LoS II - CRF patch.esp
A0  InsanitySorrow Weapons Pack.esp
A1  Billyro's Weapons.esp
A2  JS Master Collection.esp
A3  RangerWeapons.esp
A4  360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
A5  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
A6  SFCO - CRF Patch.esp
A7  SFCO - ELFX Patch.esp
A8  Unique Thane Weapons.esp
A9  CompleteArcheryOverhaul.esp
AA  CrossbowsOfSkyrim.esp
AB  JSwords-ImmersiveWeaponsPatch.esp
AC  MithrodinSword.esp
AD  SkyrimIsWindy-SimplyBiggerTreesSE-Patch.esp
AE  SteelPlateShieldSE.esp
AF  JS Dragon Claws AE - Legacy of the Dragonborn.esp
B0  Aves College Staff.esp  [Version 1.0]
B1  WeaponPack2.esp
B2  imp_helm_legend.esp
B3  Vision of Skyrim.esp
B4  Cloaks&Capes.esp
B5  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
B6  Aves Gauldur Blackblade.esp  [Version 1.0]
B7  MDWeapons.esp
B8  Ebony Damascus Blades.esp
B9  Spear Fantasy.esp
BA  COS+WACCFPatch.esp
BB  ValiantNordBow.esp
BC  MalacathSword.esp
BD  UltraWeaponsSetESPL.esp
BE  DragonbloodEtchedArmorSet.esp
BF  BBDS.esp
C0  HistoricalWeapons_ABT_Patch_75.esp
C1  StormLightning.esp
C2  More_Saddles.esp
C3  More_Saddles - Frost - BigGameHunter.esp
C4  More_Saddles - Shadowmere - Traveler.esp
C5  JS Dragon Claws AE - Wyrmstooth.esp
C6  JS Barenziah SE - Johnskyrim.esp
C7  RealRabbitsHD.esp
C8  GDOS - Splendid Mechanized Dwemer Door.esp
C9  MannequinDesigns.esp
CA  SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
CB  iHUD.esp
CC  SFCO - Falskaar Patch.esp
CD  SFCO - Wyrmstooth Patch.esp
CE  Footprints.esp
CF  Footprints - ENB.esp
D0  FNIS.esp
D1  RaceMenu.esp
D2  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
D3  SOSRaceMenu.esp
D4  XPMSE.esp
D5  UnreadBooksGlow.esp  [Version 2.2.0]
D6  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
D7  Vivid WeathersSE.esp
D8  Vivid Weathers SE - Falskaar.esp
D9  Vivid Weathers SE - Wyrmstooth.esp
DA  Vivid_TS_Patch_Ominous.esp
DB  DustEffectsSSE.esp
DC  No Edge Glow - Magic and Transformations.esp
DD  FleshFX.esp
DE  Smoking Torches And Candles.esp
DF  LoS II - Campfire addon.esp
E0  Apophysis_DPM_SE.esp
E1  Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
E2  MaximumCarnage.esp
E3  Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
E4  HPP - FirewoodSnow Campfire.esp
E5  HPP - Vaermina's Torpor.esp
E6  LeftHandRings.esp
E7  WICO - Immersive Character.esp
E8  TW3Eyes.esp
E9  Shields_Of_Glory.esp
EA  Liliths Tools.esp
EB  art_Ritevice.esp
EC  cmhRitevicePCE_PatchSE.esp
ED  WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp
EE  IWI - CRF Patch.esp
EF  IWI - New Armoury Patch.esp
F0  PrinceandPauper.esp
F1  RSChildren.esp  [Version 1.2.0.]
F2  Prince and the Pauper SE - RS Children Patch.esp
F3  IWI - RS Children Patch.esp
F4  GDOS - Glorious Solitude Door - Rotation Fix.esp
F5  AncientTonguesSwords.esp
F6  ScarletVengeance.esp
F7  ValiantNordBow_ABT_Patch_75.esp
F8  ClipsyMoon Weaponry.esp
F9  Occiglacies.esp
FA  Pyr4m1dH3d_DragonSlayer_v02.esp
FB  Fudou Myouou.esp
FC  MLPSoulGems.esp
FD  Dr_Bandolier.esp
FE  EVE - Spellbreaker Spell Reflection and Ward Visuals Restored.esp
FF  SteelPlateShieldSE_NordWarUAArmorVariants_Patch.esp
100  JS Armored Circlets SE.esp
101  RaceMenuHH.esp
102  DX Dark Knight Shield.esp
103  LazyTools.esp
104  nightshade_armor.esp
105  NetchLeather.esp
106  Ashlander Apparel.esp
107  [Caenarvon] Yue Qingshu.esp
108  TribuneArmor.esp
109  BerserkJudeauArmor.esp
10A  1nivWICCloaks.esp  [Version 2.4]
10B  FurSet by keung.esp
10C  Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods - Winter Is Coming.esp
10D  JS Ioun Stones SE - Johnskyrim.esp
10E  MiscHeelsEins_CBBE.esp
10F  Rayeks_End_SSE_1.0.esp
110  Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
111  Apex_Khajiit.esp
112  DBM_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp
113  Rayeks_End - Barenziah's Glory Patch.esp
114  MajesticMountains.esp
115  Cathedral Landscapes.esp
116  IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
117  BlendedRoads.esp
118  LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp
119  JS Dragon Claws AE - Rayek's End.esp
11A  Equippable Tomes.esp
11B  boethiahsword.esp
11C  Elvarheim Weaponry.esp
11D  LoS II - SMIM patch.esp
11E  Thunderfury SE - Johnskyrim.esp
11F  DBM_SkyrimSewers_Patch.esp
120  JS Dragon Claws AE - Skyrim Sewers.esp
121  BlackSacramentArmor.esp
122  LoS II - Eli's Breezehome patch.esp
123  FNISspells.esp
124  Cirious Business CBBE.esp
125  Equippable Tomes - Campfire Add-On.esp
126  Solvistapp SE.esp
127  Skyland Imperial Forts and Dungeons.esp
128  Nicos Raven Shield.esp
129  MLU.esp
12A  MLU_EZupdate.esp
12B  CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
12C  MLU - Improved Closefaced Helmets.esp
12D  Armors & Weapons Merge 1.esp
12E  MLU - Immersive Armors.esp
12F  CWIEnLFXSEPatch.esp
130  IWI - MLU Patch.esp
131  MLU - InsanitySorrow Weapons Pack.esp
132  ICOW_WICO_Patch.esp
133  MLU - WICO.esp
134  Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp
135  MLU - CCOR.esp
136  Immersive Jewelry.esp  [Version 1.06]
137  aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
138  SteelPlateShieldSE_CCOR.esp
139  Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
13A  ScribesofSkyrim_DBM_CACO_CCOR_Patch.esp
13B  Better Vampires.esp
13C  SL01AmuletsSkyrim_BetterVampires.esp
13D  CBBE.esp
13E  RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
13F  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 4.1.6]
140  ELFXEnhancer.esp
141  DarkerNights.esp
142  RealisticWaterTwo.esp
143  RealisticWaterTwo - Alt Volcanic Watercolor.esp

Something's messed up, that's for sure. I select the statute, and the game CTD's every time. I've disabled XPMSE, same result. Disabled LOTD, same result. I've moved it to the very bottom of the load order, same result. I even reinstalled USSEP to see if it was a dependency issue, same result. At this point, the only thing I haven't tried is starting the game without it.

for me, with LOTD patches, the statue wouldn't insitate dialogue. No crashea, just can't use ASLAL with LOTD parches. After enabiling and disabling eveyrthing, it's the LOTD the mess it up for me.

I hope you can resolve whatever got you to leave nexus mods. This site is trash. Feels like im back in 2003 trying to mod morrowind. You have a lot of great mods the world needs to see!

On 2/4/2022 at 12:29 PM, Kitsudragon said:

I've disabled XPMSE, same result. Disabled LOTD, same result.

have you tried disabling every single plugin EXCEPT USSEP and ASLAL (and i mean literally every single one) and then trying it again? and no other mods either? no SKSE at all? no DLL mods? no ENB Series? no re-shader? nothing. no other modifications at all in any way, shape, or form, including texture and mesh replacers?

until you can show that the mod fails in these conditions: it isn't this mod's fault.

Trying to set up Skyrim AE on a new system. Added this mod because I like the chance to start in different places. Everything seems to be OK but I get an odd error message in LOOT. The message refers to the .esp  Bathing in Skyrim SE - Alternate Start.esp

and reads "This plugin contains records that have FormIDs outside the valid range for an ESL plugin. Using this plugin will cause irreversible damage to your game saves."

OK, but it's an esp, not an esl. Doesn't that make a difference? Should I ignore the error message or remove the esp?

@Bartlett Bob

a file with the extension ESP can still be flagged as an ESL within the file header. this is usually done in xEdit. 

furthermore: youre asking for support for a different mod... sure it is a compatibility patch.. but this has nothing to do with Arthmoor. 

 id recommend asking whomever uploaded that compatibility patch instead.

On 1/12/2022 at 5:12 PM, primem0ver said:

This is incorrect as any version before 1.6 does not have ANY AE content.  Like many people who wanted to avoid upgrade problems until all or most of their mods had been upgraded, I disabled updates before SSE version 1.6 was out.  Several major mods I use still don't have a new version yet and the new version is still being worked on.So, if no one wants to help or give advice, I am just asking if anyone knows where I can download version 4.1.5 of this mod.  Is that really too much to ask?

You can get all of the creation club content before 1.6.x.

most.. there's at least one 1.6+ exclusive. fishing. mind you, i havent checked the CC store to see if they added that. not that would matter cuz if anyone downloads the live version of SE from steam it will be 1.6+ and come with fishing.

arthmoor adamantly only supports the live version of the game. and for very good reasons. so, arthmoor (as well as others on the team) will make the mods assuming that the user has the live version installed. (unless otherwise specified)

I have been having trouble with getting this mod to work. every time I try to enable it it says "this mod cannot be installed since it depends on files hat aren't present"

I have tried to extract it through WinRAR but it sill does not work (yes the files are in the data folder in the 'local files' of Skyrim)

Please help me I would love to use this mod!

I use PC btw

@kacchan2029

the only files you should need are all the base DLC (dawnguard, dragonborn, hearthfire) and the unofficial skyrim special edition patch (USSEP). (and update.esm)

LE edition?

On 3/16/2022 at 7:49 PM, LePoch said:

LE edition?

why is it a 7Z file instead of a regular .zip file?

17 hours ago, WolvzUnion said:

why is it a 7Z file instead of a regular .zip file?

Because 7zip gives a better compression ratio.

do anyone knows which of the patches from LOTD patches is the one causing the crash, i can confirm is one of thise ESP Files but i am not sure which one